Talk:Statolatry

Early use
"STATOLATRIE OU LE COMMUNISME LÉGAL", PARIS, 1848 (!) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 145.236.117.143 (talk) 09:33, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

I'm not really sure Non abismo... is the earliest use of the word "statolatry." In fact I'm doubtful of that, so I just called it "an earlier use" rather than the earliest. It's just the oldest thing I've read the word in and seems to be older than the Von Mises book mentioned.(And it's in most every version I've seen, but I could try to see if it's in the original Latin)--T. Anthony 10:00, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

Statolatry appears for the first time in 1637 in a book called Le MAchiavelisme Egorge by Claude Clement. For more info, check Foucault - Security, Territory, Population (ISBN 987 - 1 - 4039 - 8652 - 8) mid of page 242. Svetoslav Nenov, Manchester Uni —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.88.39.200 (talk) 14:31, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Doctrine of Fascism
I think the article as it currently is, is wrong in claiming that the Doctrine of Fascism mentions "Statolatry" at all. I know in later works of his, Giovanni Gentile refuted the claim that his ideologies amounted to statolatry, and he opposed that word, though he continued to claim the state was spiritual and even a focal point of the spirit, this was not quite the same as "divine" or worthy of worship in his philosophy. Nagelfar 10:51, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Idolatry
The term "Statolatry" doesn't really have the root element of "Idol" in it, but simply the Greek "latreia" meaning worship, with the latin "stato-". I will leave it for someone else to change, as the 'Idolatry' link does explain the transposition of worship to some concept such as "a state" quite well, even if it is technically incorrect in this instance that it does not infact combined the "idol"atry element. Nagelfar 11:05, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Where is "statolatry"?
Can someone add the direct quote from "La dottrina del fascismo" in Italian and the English translation of the passage? I can't find what you're referring to!

http://www.piralli.it/dottrina.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.213.126.2 (talk) 00:56, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Here's a translation: https://books.google.com.au/books?id=Re9J1zqkP9oC&lpg=PA55&ots=6r9qwaDoYo&dq=doctrine%20fascism%20statolatry&pg=PA55#v=onepage&q=%20statolatry&f=false — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.174.43.155 (talk) 07:55, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

This appears to be a POV fork from the Statism article
This appears to be a POV fork from the Statism article, as it appears to be about exactly the same topic.--R-41 (talk) 21:48, 3 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Statism and Statolatry are clearly different topics and deserving of separate articles. R-41 hasn't provided any argument that this article is POV and it seems that the POV banner was merely a kneejerk reaction to an article he didn't like so I am going to remove it. MickStep (talk) 11:44, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

hardly a "POV fork" from the Statism article
This article documents the use of the term from a religious and historical point of view, which is very different from the Statism article. So "exactly the same" is false. But I can see why an article on "statolatry" might irk many (who perhaps hold the state in god-like regard and awe). Wod observer (talk) 03:24, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Laughable
Not only is the language against Wikipedia standard (having biased language), but no writer can tell the difference in idolatry, and iconography. Iconography is YOUR religion's stuff, but idolatry is everyone else's, right? They worship cloth, you worship symbols qua flag. Laughable. 71.165.247.91 (talk) 00:28, 8 December 2014 (UTC)