Talk:Statue of Abraham Lincoln (District of Columbia City Hall)/Archive 1

Possible sources
APK whisper in my ear  19:02, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Smithsonian American Art Museum's Art Inventories Catalog ✅
 * Lot Flannery ✅
 * "Testament to Union: Civil War Monuments in Washington, D.C.", pp 68-71 ✅
 * "Courts to Rededicate City's Oldest Lincoln Statue" ✅
 * "Lot Flannery, 86, Sculptor, is Dead" ✅

Sculptor section?
Should the content in the Sculptor section be moved to create an article about Flannery? Seems he is notable enough for an entry of his own. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:24, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I was wondering the same thing. If a new one is created, should there still be some background info on this article? I don't usually write sculpture articles, so I'm not sure of the usual MoS. APK whisper in my ear  21:46, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't often see much info about the sculptor/artist on an entry for a specific work. Usually just the details that are most relevant... like if they are/were from the city in which the work resides, other works by the artist in the same city, etc. People can always click on the article about the artist if interested. (Pointing to my own work here for convenience, but you might check out the "Showcase" section here to view GA articles for sculptures and how they incorporate info about the artist.) --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:52, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks. I'll create one for Flannery and move things around on this article. APK whisper in my ear  21:59, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Sounds good. Again, great job on the article! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:03, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks! APK whisper in my ear  22:33, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

I think this article would pass a good article review Do you have an interest in nominating it? --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 05:08, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Sure. I only have one GA under my belt (six years ago), so let me read up on the procedure.  APK  whisper in my ear  05:53, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Glad to hear. Let me know if you need assistance with the process. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 05:55, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Title
Hello! WP:VAMOS has been updated and now says:
 * "For portrait sculptures of individuals in public places the forms "Statue of Fred Foo" "Equestrian statue of Fred Foo" or "Bust of Fred Foo" is recommended, unless a form such as "Fred Foo Memorial" or "Monument to Fred Foo" is the WP:COMMONNAME. If further disambiguation is needed, because there is more than one sculpture of the same person with an article, then disambiguation by location rather than the sculptor is usually better."

Do you know if this work of art is officially called Abraham Lincoln? If not, we should probably move the page to be consistent with others at Statue of Abraham Lincoln. Since there are other statues of Lincoln in Washington, D.C., I think Statue of Abraham Lincoln (District of Columbia City Hall) is necessary for disambiguation purposes. Thoughts? Pinging you as well, as someone familiar with this ongoing discussion re: title for public statues.

Thanks, both! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:04, 25 September 2019 (UTC)


 * The sources just call it Abraham Lincoln, but the suggestion you mentioned works for me.  APK  whisper in my ear  19:49, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

Requested move 1 March 2020

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 

The result of the move request was: Moved as proposed. There's consensus for move. (non-admin closure) – Ammarpad (talk) 16:54, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Abraham Lincoln (Flannery) → Statue of Abraham Lincoln (District of Columbia City Hall) – WP:VAMOS has been updated and now says: "" Since there are other statues of Lincoln in Washington, D.C., we must use a more specific location. This move would make the page more consistent with entries in Category:Statues of Abraham Lincoln. -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:08, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose per this reference and this one, among others, which indicate that Abraham Lincoln is the real name of this important statue (although "Lincoln" is carved on the statue itself) and it surely is the common name. A great back story, the sculptor was at Ford's the night Lincoln was shot (although not clear if he witnessed the shooting or was in the lobby getting popcorn). Randy Kryn (talk) 16:55, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Support (or similar with some disambiguator). I see no reason not to use "Statue of X". It is a statue, not the man himself, and we have a convention for naming articles about statues, as found in WP:VAMOS. —BarrelProof (talk) 17:41, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Support per WP:VAMOS, as quoted in the nomination. Ham II (talk) 10:03, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Support, as per nom, others. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 17:22, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:45, 6 March 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.