Talk:Stay with Me (Sam Smith song)/Archive 1

Similarity to "I Won't Back Down" by Tom Petty?
Hey!

I noticed that "Stay With Me" bears a big similarity to "I Won't Back Down" by Tom Petty, released in 1989. There was mention of it in this article earlier, but it seems to have been removed. Could you provide any explanation for that and why it shouldn't be put back up?

Also, by the looks of it, I'm not alone:
 * Sam Smith: Stay With Me sounds like Tom Petty: I Won't Back Down
 * Sam Smith - "Stay With Me"--read the part, "“Stay With Me” has the sing-along chorus kind of like Tom Petty’s “Won’t Back Down,” except done by a British man with a piano and a gospel choir."
 * Sam Smith "Stay With Me" (2014) vs. Tom Petty "I Won't Back Down" (1989

--198.45.223.105 (talk) 17:26, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

---Indeed. I came to this page to check if Tom Petty had a writing credit (or if there'd was a lawsuit). It's the same melody, IMO. --Replysixty (talk) 21:49, 14 July 2014 (UTC)


 * It's not really the same melody though. The chorus of Sam Smith's song uses the same melody as most (not all) of the verse of Tom Petty's, and both are a consequence of using the same chord progression with similar musical intent. I'd wager that a gospel musicologist could eventually dig up the original song that both artists lifted from - the melody is pretty standard, and the real credit and money should probably go to some black man or woman who probably died in poverty in the 1930s. As Petty notes, it's a complete accident, and he's lucky Smith was rolling in so much money that he didn't see a reason to contest the issue by finding the prior art that Petty himself lifted from. AllGloryToTheHypnotoad (talk) 16:24, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

They made a friendly settlement and adjusted the writing credits. If anyone wants to update the page here is the link http://consequenceofsound.net/2015/01/tom-petty-awarded-songwriting-royalties-for-sam-smiths-stay-with-me/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Overhere2000 (talk • contribs) 04:21, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

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I removed Category:Songs written by Tom Petty and Category:Songs written by Jeff Lynne since they didn't write this song. ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 00:43, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

Confusion in the article about eligibility for Grammy award. In fact it won Song of the Year as another section notes
I'd rather leave it to the original creator of the article, or someone also more experienced who may be able to explain if I am misunderstanding something. The article states:

"Petty and Lynne, however, were not eligible for a Grammy as the Recording Academy considered "Stay with Me" to have been interpolated from "I Won't Back Down" by Napier, Phillips and Smith; instead Petty and Lynne would be given certificates to honor their contribution to the work, as is usual for writers of sampled or interpolated work.[16]"

HOWEVER as other sections note, it DID IN FACT win Song of the Year in 2015. Here, FYI is a link to that year's major awards: https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-31277530

Where is says: Record of the year Winner: Stay With Me - Sam Smith

So the quoted statement from the article is either totally WRONG or it means something that is not obvious.17:31, 27 February 2020 (UTC)StevenRoussos (talk)