Talk:Stefan Dečanski/Archive 1

illegitimate
decanski was not born of any of the wedded wives of tsar Milutin, instead decanski (= Urosh III) was illegitimate, by Milutin's some early concubine. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.181.234.211 (talk) 17:53, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

His full title
I think his full title was "King of all the Serbian and the coastal lands" (Kralj svih srpskih i pomorskih zemalja). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.216.49.72 (talk) 13:26, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

His mother
Stefan Dečanski is not son of Bulgarian princess. He is son of Serbian noblewoman Jelena, first wife of Stefan Uroš II Milutin. Could please somebody help with cite notes. Book is Веселиновић, Андрија, Љушић, Радош Српске династије. Платонеум, Нови Сад, Београд, 2001. ISBN 86-83639-01-0 --Dalibor Đurić (talk) 19:34, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

Branivojevići
What is the "Branivojevići"? The term is referenced without explanation in the article. The best I can guess from reading other references on the internet is that it is a group of Serbian nobility, perhaps a family based in Hum. Why is this group of particular importance? Can someone with knowledge of this area provide more explanation?--Rpclod (talk) 05:37, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Prince of Serbia Stephan Dushan
Should that be Stefan Dušan? 99.238.74.216 (talk) 23:31, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Name
Long name:
 * "Stefan Uroš III Dečanski" (58)
 * "Стефан Урош III Дечански" (32)
 * "Stephan Uroš III Dečanski" (13)
 * "Stephen Uroš III Dečanski" (6)

Short name:
 * "Stefan Dečanski" (183)
 * "Стефан Дечански" (163)
 * "Stephan Dečanski" (46)
 * "Stephen Dečanski" (43)
 * "Stefan Dechanski" (35)
 * "Stephen Dechanski" (18)
 * "Stefan of Dečani" (16)
 * "Stephen of Dečani" (15)
 * "Stephan Dechanski" (14)

Gbook hits.--Z oupan 05:38, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Requested move 30 March 2015

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The result of the move request was: To be moved. Note: move requires admin assistance, which I will request. &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:36, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Stefan Uroš III Dečanski of Serbia → Stefan Dečanski – As per common name. See above section. Z oupan 05:45, 30 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Comment Is there any information available on how many WP readers go to the page directly versus how many hit the redirect first? 1bandsaw (talk) 21:36, 30 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Comment There are twenty (20) redirects for this page:
 * Stefan Decanski
 * Stefan Decansky
 * Stefan Dečanski
 * Stefan Uros III Decanski of Serbia
 * Stefan Uroš III
 * Stefan Uroš III Dečanski
 * Stefan of Dechani
 * Stefan of Dečani
 * Stepan Uros III
 * Stephen Decanski
 * Stephen IV of Serbia
 * Stephen Uros III Decanski of Serbia
 * Stephen Uroš III
 * Stephen Uroš III Dečanski
 * Stephen Uroš III Dečanski of Serbia
 * Stephen Uroš III of Serbia
 * Stephen of Dechani
 * Stephen of Dečani
 * Uros III of Serbia
 * Uroš III of Serbia

which makes any title choice dubious. I prefer the English Stephen Decanski. One can use Wikipedia article traffic statistics to see how many readers come in from each redirect, but the statistics are skewed by the use of redirects in other artciles, such as the use of Stefan Dečanski is about fifty articles, and the use of Stephen Decanski in only one. --Bejnar (talk) 23:22, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment Don't see why redirects make "any title choice dubious", and why "the statistics" are used for this move discussion. The common name is "Stefan Dečanski". Apart from the Google books hits that clearly favour "Stefan Dečanski", Google scholar has 204 hits for "Stefan Dečanski" and 14 hits for "Stephen Dečanski". I think this is as decisive as it gets.--Z oupan 07:06, 4 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Strongly support Stefan Dečanski. 23 editor (talk) 19:37, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Support common name, good proposal. -- Ąnαșταη  ( ταlκ )  22:00, 5 April 2015 (UTC)


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