Talk:Steinway & Sons/Archive 1

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Is Steinway the name of a place? The article seems to suggest that, but it's hard to tell. Is it is a place name, then where is it? I would have expected this article to be about the piano makers, but I suppose that might live at Steinway Company or something if this is indeed a place. I keep meaning to expand the piano related entries, not got round to it yet. --Camembert

Don't think it's the name of a place. It's just one Herr or Mister Steinway and his extended family.

van cliburn is not "late"!!!
please clear that up... it sounds as if van cliburn is dead... which he most certainly is not... thank god...

too short
in addition to my previous input about cliburn not being "late", could a wikipedia member please put a little "this-article-needs-lengthening" flag on it??? In terms of Wikipedia standards, this is far too short an article for such an interesting topic. I know for a FACT that there is more to Steinway tonality and functionality than is stated in the article. thanks!

Added reference label
I know that there's a list of references at the end of the article, but there are anumber of potentially contoversial claims in the article that are not properly cited. Maethordaer 00:18, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

in the interest of objecvity, please delete...
Thanks for the article. Couple of suggestions regarding the content:

"However, the quality of Steinway Pianos vastly surpasses that of any other make of piano in the world and is it is therefore only right that Steinway defend its position as leading manufacturer of pianos in the world by imposing these penalties."

This statement is incredibly subjective and should be deleted in its' entirety. A case could be made that the build and materials quality of Bluthner, Bosendorfer, C. Bechstein, Mason & Hamlin, and a few others are equal to-- if not superior to that of the Steinway. I'm a fan of S&S, but this really sounds like marketing hype... and doesn't belong on Wikipedia.

"both are built to the same exacting standards[citation needed]. The only difference is the action."

This may be better expressed as, "both are built using the same scale designs". The vast majority of pianists and technicians [at least anyone who doesn't work/sell for Steinway NY] agree that the build quality and finished quality/consistency of the Hamburg instruments is far superior to that of the NY pianos. This does not discount the slight differences in tone quality/action between the two [which is subjective, and why I like a good NY concert grand], but the perceived difference in quality control-- right from the factory, anyhow. Your quotation above suggests to me that both pianos are equals in design and construction; many have gone so far as to consider the pianos leaving the NY factory as "unfinished", where countless additional hours of prep work must be done by technicians in order for the instruments to reach their fully impressive potential.

I submit this entry in the interest of the article not sounding like it came from NY Steinway's marketing department. 66.90.140.95 13:24, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

This is a good point about Steinway. I own one, as well as other pianos. Other piano makers are doing diligent job too. The landscape is changing constantly.

Photographs of all the Steinways

 * http://www.steinway.com/steinway/limited_edition/HZ_Brochure.pdf