Talk:Stephen, Count of Blois

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Why is he Stephen II? There doesn't seem to be a previous Stephen. Adam Bishop 21:15, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Yes... I would like to know also. I have this Stephen's uncle as a Stephen. He (the uncle) was not (AFAIK) a Count of Blois, but was a Count of Champagne. To further complicate things, I have him as Stephen "II" Count of Champagne. I see that he is listed as such in Count of Champagne.

I suspect that "Blois' " "II" may be due to the two Stephens getting skewed.

In general, I try not to use the numerals at all unless I am quoting a source. It can get to be ridiculous when it comes down to what side of a comma they fall on. For instance John II Smith, King's Horse Polisher or John Smith II, King's Horse Polisher is not (although sometimes confused as) John Smith, II King's Horse Polisher. I've reached a point that I don't even see the numerals anymore and I scan to a DOB or other fact when trying to confirm identity.

--Dogfish 11:24, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Succession
According to David Crouch ("The Reign of King Stephen") William became count when Stephen Henry left for his second crusade. And it was not until 1107 that William was removed in favour of Theobald. Are there any sources that dispute this, in favour of the version you have here? --Tokle (talk) 10:39, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

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The result of the move request was: moved to Stephen, Count of Blois. Favonian (talk) 19:21, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Stephen II, Count of Blois → Stephen, Count of Blois – or

Stephen II, Count of Blois → Stephen Henry, Count of Blois –. There was never a first Stephen of Blois and this Stephen is the only Count of Blois that is so named. --Alexcoldcasefan (talk) 08:25, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Move it to Stephen, Count of Blois. Srnec (talk) 22:00, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
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More information?
I've seen some television documentaries lately that indicate Stephen of Blois was an interesting character (most things I've read label him as "silly"). There seemed to be quite a few entertaining stories floating around. I was hoping to find more "flavor" in this article as to why he has such a silly reputation, but there doesn't seem to be any. I have no access to primary sources at all. Can someone help? 98.67.154.153 (talk) 21:13, 26 September 2012 (UTC)