Talk:Stephen Graham (basketball)

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How is it possible that Joey Graham, born 6/11/82 in Wilmington, DE has an identical twin, Steve, born 6/11/82 in Brandon, FL. While Stevie has a fraternal twin brother, Joey?


 * You would think that Joey and Stevie would have been born in the same city. They were listed as being from Brandon, Florida, when they were at OSU, but that might not be their actual birthplace.  Their bios on Yahoo both list them as being born in Wilmington, Delaware, so I'll go ahead and make that change here.  As for whether or not they're identical, I'm not sure on that.  They do look a lot alike, but that doesn't necessarily mean they're identical.  I'm a twin myself, and while my brother does look a lot like me, we're pretty sure we're fraternal.  -- 68.12.106.243 19:21, 2 February 2006 (UTC)


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{} no consensus. &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) Seen this already? 07:38, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Requested move
Stevie Graham → Stephen Graham (basketball) Please move this back to the more appropriate title. His real name is Stephen, not Stevie. (Requested on WP:RM at 03:22, 29 March 2006 by Downwards, discussion created here by MartinRe 13:44, 29 March 2006 (UTC))


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 * Support Correct name for article, redirect for nickname is appropiate. However, as there are several Stephen Graham, redirect for short form of name might possibly be better to point at disambig page, or if points directly to one person, should include othernames disambig on top of article. MartinRe 13:50, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Oppose Wikipedia has no rule against using short forms of names; in fact, we specify that articles should be at Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton rather than James Carter or William Clinton. Now, this is a bit of an odd case, because this person does seem to be most commonly referred to as "Stephen Graham". However, he is also called "Stevie Graham", and, as it turns out, he seems to be the most famous Stevie Graham, where there are other more notable Stephen Grahams. Therefore, I think the former is a better title, because it doesn't require a parenthetical disambiguator. MartinRe is right, though, that there should be a link to Stephen Graham at the top to avoid confusion. Also, if there were evidence that Stephen Graham doesn't like being called Stevie, then I would support deprecating "Stevie Graham". - Nat Krause(Talk!) 23:40, 2 April 2006 (UTC)


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proper name
Stephen Graham and Stevie Graham are the same person. He used to go by Stevie Graham, but now he goes by Stephen, well at least while he was at Oklahoma State. And he is The fraternal twin of Joey Graham, not identical.

Too much info?
Is it just me, or is this an overly long article, full of undue weight, about someone who is essentially a mediocre basketball player? While he has played in the NBA and is thus deserving of an article; do we really need several paragraphs extolling the supposed virtues of a player whose pro career has been so unspectacular? --EngineerScotty 22:39, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

This is an encyclopedia last I checked. The common goal of encyclopedias is to gain as much information about a given subject, thus being Stephen Graham for this topic.