Talk:Stephen McIntyre/new draft

OK, sorry about the page moves, onto the discussion...


 * When advocates of the Kyoto Protocol used the Hockey Stick graph from the 1998 Nature by Michael Mann (scientist), Bradley and Hughes (MBH98), McIntyre perceived some similarities to a mining stock prospectus

Is not coherent. used for what? . What does perceived some similarities to a mining stock prospectus'' mean? Who are the unnamed advocates of the Kyoto Protocol.


 * See also RealClimate, a blog run by climate scientists, most of whose work McIntyre has criticised.

Really? So... point me to the crit of my work; or Ray Pierre's; of Gavin's; of... I think this is badly in danger of recycling skeptic POV. Much is unsourced (McIntyre perceived some similarities to a mining stock prospectus - who says so?).

One question you might want to consider: is climate audit, and his crit of the hockey stick, essentially his only notable achievement? Is any of his previous work of any interest?

William M. Connolley 22:54, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

WMC, thanks for the page move. Yet another step up the giant learning curve that is Wikipedia ;-) ...

Steve McIntyre himself has repeatedly stated that the graph seemed familiar from some of the more dubious prospectuses he'd seen (think about it), and that the way it was used in Canada to "sell" Kyoto also (my paraphrase) set off alarm bells in his mind. If you really want, I can find one of his descriptions of how the Kyoto proponents (including the former national gov't) used the HS in Canada.

You're right about that "see also" sentence &mdash; it certainly needs work.

Your last question is a good one. My impression is that SM is putting his climate auditing into the public sphere, but not the rest of his life (except for some of his squash games and his favourite TV show, neither of which seem very encyclopedic to me ...). So I'd say that the current "Background" section is about right.

&mdash;Chris Chittleborough 15:00, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

(Slightly later) A question about style: given that the new draft will have lots of hyperlinks to posts and comments on http://climateaudit.org, is it OK to do them like this?
 * Stephen McIntyre has worked in hard-rock mineral exploration for 30 years, much of that time as an officer or director of several public mineral exploration companies. He has also been a policy analyst at both the governments of Ontario and of Canada.

Or should we use a more formal style (eg., Footnotes)? Comments welcome, especially from experienced editors.
 * &mdash;Chris Chittleborough 00:19, 24 March 2006 (UTC)