Talk:Stephen Payne (naval architect)

UK-base Future Engineers Organization
Can anyone help in determining if the Future Engineers organization founded by Stephen Payne and others has an active web link? The link to FutureEngineers.org is not technically a "dead link" but that URL is currently owned by the US-based American Society of Mechanical Engineers for their USA-based program. Blue  Riband►   22:39, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
 * FutureEngineers.co.uk re-directs to "Future Engineer Recruitment Limited", a job recruitment and placement company founded in 2009.
 * FutureEngineers.com is owned by a cybersquatter.
 * Engineeringuk.com is a registered UK charity founded in 2002, but there is no mention of Stephen Payne among the people listed there.

City of London and the Exbury Egg
Way back on 9 January 2015 with this edit info on CEng and Freedom of the City of London was added by with the Exbury Egg as a reference. Webarchive recognises that URL for that time but produces (for me) only a blank page. The URL was subsequently changed here (equally blank) and then tagged in December as "permanently dead", though it does redirect to a page on the same subject. In none of this can I see any connection at all to Stephen Payne or to the Freedom of the City of London, in particular. Davidships (talk) 11:50, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, I acknowledge that sourcing Payne's connection with the Exbury Egg project and the Freedom of the City of London has become a problem. The URL ending for websites based in the UK changed to ".co.uk". The Wayback machine only produces re-directs.  The current SPUD site - which first spondored the Egg Project - no longers mentions him or anybody else the Egg project team.  I think we might label these as permanent dead links. Both claims were sourced, but those sources are no longer live online links. Blue Riband► 21:26, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
 * The 9 Jan 2015 UK Telegraph article mentions that Payne is a chartered engineer so I've used that reference to support the claim. As for the Freedom of the City of London, that's not as easy to find as it has no meaning whatsoever in the US. Blue Riband► 00:45, 4 March 2021 (UTC)