Talk:Stevens Award Lecture

There is many articles in Wikipedia about recipients of Stevens Award, as well as an article about Stevens. However, it is more natural to link to the award, than to lecture: compare the Nobel Prize with Nobel lecture...

Yurakm 06:07, 12 January 2007 (UTC)


 * The Nobel Prize is quite clearly notable. I'm not finding much to indicate that the Stevens Award is notable enough for even one article, let alone multiples. Seraphimblade 06:28, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

It looks as we are discussed two different questions:

1. Does Stevens Award deserve an article in Wikipedia?

2. Does the Stevens Award Lecture deserve a separate article?

I would answer "yes" to the first question, and I already answered "no" to the second one.

Well, the Stevens Award definitely is not as notable as Nobel Prize. Very few articles would be left in Wikipedia, though, if we will be so selective.

The list of recipient of Stevens Award includes many of the most outstanding thinkers in the field of theory / methodology of software design. There are articles about eight of them and/or about their theories and methods in Wikipedia. There are also articles about them in many other places on Internet, their books, and articles that are widely quoted. I would say it means they are notable. I would not surprised if articles about other recipient of the award also will appear in Wikipedia: they deserve it. I would like to write a couple of the article myself, after finishing with some other projects.

There is also an article in Wikipedia about Stevens himself.

The aforementioned Wikipedia articles mention the Stevens Award. Naturally, a reader will ask: what award? It is better to explain it once in a separate article than to do it nine times in nine articles - and several times more more in the future.


 * Well, that's more a discussion for that article's page, and I'd have to do further research before I would know if the award is notable or not. ("Lots of notable people have won it" means little, really-notable people are presented with all kinds of things, all the time.) As of right now, though, I'm really having a hard time finding any indication that the award receives much coverage. Still, I would certainly stand by the claim that this article is superfluous, there's no reason this subject can't be covered under the main article. Though it seems we're rather in agreement there-if that's the case, just leave the proposed deletion tag in place, and an admin will delete this article after the tag expires. Seraphimblade 22:24, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Sounds reasonable - how about if we merge the two articles (under Stevens Award? Do you feel that using the quote from Reengineer.org risks copyvio - I would have thought it was good enough to have proper accreditation...?  Jpaulm 22:13, 14 January 2007 (UTC)


 * It would be nice if you merge the two articles. The Stevens Award Lecture will be deleted soon otherwise. Yurakm 13:56, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

I have taken a stab at it - could you take a look at Stevens Award and see what you think? I have copied the description from Stevens Award Lecture, which in turn was copied from the link - does this have to be rephrased to avoid copyvio? (I have also changed the link in Wayne Stevens). Thanks. Jpaulm 14:48, 17 January 2007 (UTC)