Talk:Stingray phone tracker

Merge
This should be merged to the AIMSI-catcher article. 76.111.244.85 (talk) 21:21, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, maybe. You can tag it with merge to, if you want.  I thought about that when I first saw this article, but it's got enough sources that I didn't want want to get involved in a long debate about it. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 03:54, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
 * 479 hellawell Rd Sunnybank Hills 159.196.13.80 (talk) 17:52, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

I Christy Hughes (talk) 17:20, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

Digital Certificate?
Something that the article does not make clear is whether there exists some sort of digital certificate that prevents some random person from impersonating a cellphone tower. If not, then it would seem that criminals and private investigators could make their own stingray towers. If so, then the government agencies that operate these devices must have obtained certificates. Did the cellphone operators give them up voluntarily or was a court order involved? One way or the other, if there are reliable sources on this it would be a good addition to this article. 76.194.215.243 (talk) 01:43, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

Based on my cobbled-together knowledge cellphones and cell towers go, handsets do not authenticate to base stations, so no certificate is needed. So anyone can create a cellphone tower. I will search for a good citation to back this statement up. Antonymous (talk) 20:37, 22 August 2014 (UTC)


 * I'm not an expert on this, but I think that for GSM this was a problem up to 2G, but that as part of the 3G standard the cell towers do need to be able to provide authentication. RenniePet (talk) 03:24, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

FOIA
ACLU dropped some FOIA docs related to Harris' FCC regulatory approval today if anyone wants to poke around a bit and see if there is anything worth inclusion here. -- dsprc   [talk]  22:15, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

Full operations manuals of StingRay have now leaked
Apparently, the full and complete operations manuals of these StingRay devices from the Harris Corp. have now leaked. Here is a rather long-form journalism article I ran into in my morning reading: Long-Secret Stingray Manuals Detail How Police Can Spy on Phones, The Intercept, 12 Sep 2016, by technology journalist Sam Biddle. Quite a bit of Biddle's article might be used to improve this Wikipedia article. Cheers. N2e (talk) 12:13, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Included it in refideas blurb at of this talk page. --  dsprc   [talk]  12:45, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

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Radio Jamming Functionality
[17] (https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1282634-10-02-02-2010-kingfish-appropriations-request.html page 6) is used as a source for the claim the stingray has "Radio jamming for either general denial of service purposes" functionality. However, the document only claims the kingfish can "deny mobile phone service". I do not see any indication that actual radio jamming is possible. Is there a better source? Yawkat (talk) 09:27, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

It uses denial of service by mimicking a cell phone tower, but without network connectivity. No "jamming" involved.

Stingray cases in Oslo, Norway
Source (Norwegian language): https://www.aftenposten.no/norge/i/1krgM/Slik-foregar-overvakingen-i-Oslo — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.107.93.243 (talk) 08:35, 2 July 2018 (UTC)