Talk:Stitch holder

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There is initial confusion in the first sentence of the article, as it states that stitch holders are also known as stitch markers, but this is not the case, as stitch holders and stitch markers are two completely different items that serve two different purposes and cannot be used interchangeably. The single reference used in the article leads to an article about stitch markers, containing pictures of stitch markers that are visibly different to stitch holders, and the referenced article only discusses uses of stitch markers and does not confirm any information about stitch holders. Also, the second sentence explains that the two most common types of “stitch markers” are locking and ring, which is correct for stitch markers, but is incorrect for stitch holders. Stitch holders are most commonly long items made from plastic or metal that open to hold a row of stitches but have a fastener, so the stitches do not slip off. They normally look like large safety pins. They are sometimes large thin cords that can be tied or fastened. Although the common uses offered in the article are correct uses of a stitch holder, they are lacking references. There are videos, blog posts, and articles that exist that could be used as references for this article. I think that the common uses section could also be easier to understand if there were an illustration or picture of a stitch holder in use, such as a stitch holder being used to hold the sleeve hole stitches on a sweater or the thumb hole stitches on a mitten. The image of the stitch holders is helpful but without having an in-use photo or illustration it does not adequately explain what a stitch holder does or how it is used. It also may be worth referring to cable knitting, as a cable needle can be seen as a type of stitch holder and may help to further explain the use of a stitch holder. Also it may be worth noting items commonly used as stitch holders or in lieu of using a stitch holder, such as a scrap piece of yarn, another type of string or ribbon or a large safety pin. Replacing stitch holders with more common items is a popular search phrase, is commonly referred to in articles, and is often suggested on knitting and crochet patterns. Kikicatkikicat23 (talk) 22:15, 8 October 2021 (UTC)