Talk:Stochocracy

Please note: the page : "Stochocracie" Exist on the French Wikipedia pages. I poste d on the english pWikipedia, because: 1) it is an important concept as attempt in order to break the iron law of aligarchy of Rober Michels, where all current representative democracies suffer from. 2) the page is accepted on the French Wikipedia pages.

Note: Is my understanding correct that all contributions who do 100% not fit the political opinion of the Wikiepdia reviewers are removed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Piet De Pauw (talk • contribs)


 * I have explained to you on your talk page why this is not so. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 17:11, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

My apologies if this is not the correct way to add to the Talk pages. I would like to suggest that the contents of this page be merged into the article for Sortition, which appears to me to be the equivalent concept in the English language. Askthepatrick (talk) 08:40, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

gratuitous abbreviation -- "a.o." -- should be spelled out
One of the sentences in this very short article (at least, as of this version of the article), says"This system is defended a.o. by Étienne Chouard."

I suggest that the use of the abbreviation (or acronym) "a.o." there, should be replaced by a fully spelled-out version -- one that explains what it means, without requiring any guessing on the part of the reader.

Does "a.o.", as used there, mean "among others"? (or, "and others")? If it does, then IMHO the "space savings" achieved by using an abbreviation there, is a particularly bad idea -- potentially causing (some) readers to have difficulty determining what "a.o." means, in order to achieve a triumphant space savings of about 8 or 6 characters (including the blank).

Also, if the abbreviation (or acronym) "a.o." there, does mean [something like] "among others" (or, "and others"), then I think it belongs later in the sentence; definitely after the preposition "by", and probably also after the [example] name, "Étienne Chouard."

Any comments?

Such as, any guesses as to what the abbreviation (or acronym) "a.o." means, as used here?

Any advice would be appreciated. --Mike Schwartz (talk) 19:20, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Stochocracy as gender, sortition or demarchy as species - determinant number isn´t to be attained exclusively by sortition
==== I should vote against the merging with sortition, because stochocracy isn´t limited to sortition. This became clearer in countries distinguished by nearly chaotic governances, where the issue has been discussed more than under comparatively stable, or successful, governments. An example is es.wikipedia.org/ article "Estococracia". Sortition (just an attempt to translate the french word "sortition") isn´t needed for stochocracy; this later is the general term. The stochastic character of governants can be attained by arbitrarily putting any determining number, e.g. a section of the identity card number. Establishing it as 0000 yields an statistical sample of the population in the same way (i.e., as mathematically fair as) sorting such a determining number. See the Argentinian long labored (yet unapplied!) example in es.wiki

==== This is why stochocracy is the gender and the forms of sortition, as well as the forms of arbitrary establishment of the "determinant" number, are its species. The wider concept is therefore Stochocracy.

==== Best regards,