Talk:Stone (G.I. Joe)

Relationship and Family
Should mention be made more in this article about Lt. Stone's relationship with Duke & General Hawk who they know each others from a long time.

Same character? Uncited speculation
I've again removed the chunk of text below. User:Horkana's selective restoration of the material excised the most important line: "it is unknown if [the movie character and the subject of this article] are the same person," and no substantiation other than fanboy wishful thinking asserts such a connection. If anyone can back up the claim, by all means cite it. In the meantime, the material is below and in the edit history. --EEMIV (talk) 04:49, 10 August 2009 (UTC)


 * You are entirely missing the point. This is a toy line, this is not a real person. There is a toy called Lt. Stone. Sgt. Stone is another incarnation of that toy and the information should be kept with the other incarnations of the Toy even if this incarnation is quite different from the others. To be consistent you would need to go to the page for "Breaker" and delete his information too as his character in the film has a different name and nationality from the previous incarnations. Putting up the question about them being the same character is irrelevant and only creates a point of contention that needs to referenced/cited that only a fanboy would bother to argue. The whole section should not be deleted based on the irrelevant speculation, only the speculation should be removed.  I question the notability of all these GI Joe character articles but if you're going to keep the articles you should keep the information about the film too. You should add the text back in, it improves the article. Readers will just be left wondering why there is no mention of the film. -- Horkana (talk) 04:39, 12 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Based on that, then, it sounds instead like the other GI Joe articles needs substantial trimming and clarification about what characters are intended to be "reimagingings" of one another. If there's no evidence that similarly-named characters are intended to be the same as, or based on, each other, then they shouldn't be lumped in the same article.


 * Really, all these GI Joe articles probably should just be amalgamated into a giant List of GI Joe characters or some such; from what I've seen, they're all laden with plot cruft, speculation and trivia.


 * However, "all the other articles are a combination of tenuous speculation and hodgepodge of information" doesn't warrant restoration of this material. In the absence of substantiation that this iteration of a character name "Stone" is intended to be connected to other iterations, then it doesn't belong in this article. If there's no evidence that the characters still in the article are intended to be "the same" or even related, then they, too, should be excised -- that, or the focus/scope of this article reworked in the lead.


 * Are you an active GI Joe character article editor? I'd encourage you to make the bold step of amalgamating these wholly needless separate articles and start redircting/selective-merging them into an appropriate List of GI Joes, List of Cobras, etc. --EEMIV (talk) 04:56, 12 August 2009 (UTC)


 * From your talk page you've got several people who aren't pleased at your deletion of this section. This is a perfectly reasonable place to group together any GI Joe characters called Stone, who's who is an entirely seperate issue that you can request a citation for. I'm pretty sure you've fallen foul of the 3 revert rule. I'm going to reinstate it one more time. -- Horkana (talk) 01:13, 13 August 2009 (UTC)


 * G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra


 * Stone action figure was released as a sergeant instead of as a lieutenant; it is unknown if they are the same person. His action figure file card indicates he is a special operations instructor who trains the G.I. Joe team in combat tactics, marksmanship, survival techniques, and other commando skills. He battles the Neo-Vipers who drill their way into the G.I. Joe 'Pit' Headquarters.


 * Brendan Fraser plays Stone in the 2009 film . At first, it was reported he was going to play Gung-Ho in the movie, but it was later revealed by director Stephen Sommers to be otherwise.