Talk:Stone Cold Steve Austin

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this is way to pro and just bs softball stuff "Austin had his first starring film role as Jack Conrad in the 2007 thriller The Condemned. He will next star as "Dan Paine" in "The Expendables" for director/star Sylvester Stallone. Austin recently wrapped production on "Damage," a hard-edged, bare-knuckles fight film that focuses on the tough choices people make in times of recession. The film is the first in a multi-picture deal between Austin, Nasser Entertainment, and Caliber Media. Austin also recently signed a television development deal with Original Media and Caliber Media." too make this better they should type in "Slurp" "SLurp" slurp..ever 5 words..to simuate what that paragraph is doing.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.255.46.89 (talk) 02:19, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Blurs fantasy and reality?
The descriptions of segments and feuds read as if written by someone who's not quite sure if they're real or fake; certainly they don't make it clear enough. 99.234.182.107 (talk) 23:57, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

is this the bottom line? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.86.148.6 (talk) 22:37, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Is Category:Fictional kings really appropriate? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 136.160.154.12 (talk) 00:56, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Pre-WCW
I have no dates or links or such, but Austin performed in the World Class/USWA organization before WCW. I believe he was a "trainee" or somesuch of Gentleman Chris Adams, under the name Steve Williams. When the inevitable backstabbing occured, he changed his name to Austin.

Go4thAndDie (talk) 21:05, 15 March 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.21.252.135 (talk) 21:01, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

That has some truth to it, but that was more of the storyline side of him changing his name. The real purpose of the name change was because of the fact that there would have been two people wrestling under that name, with Dr. Death Steve Williams already as one of them.Scca8704 (talk) 06:56, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Article name change suggestion
Since Austin moved into acting, I was wondering if it's okay to move the article name to Steve Austin (entertainer), instead of the current title. -- CollisionCourse (talk) 09:47, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
 * This is the name people have known him by since King of the Ring 1996-- Nascar king  22:52, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I was just wondering, since he isn't a wrestler anymore, and that is his former ring name. Although he did change his real name to Steve Austin. -- CollisionCourse (talk) 23:47, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Well I mean its like...WP:COMMONNAME-- Unquestionable Truth -- 23:51, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay, I see your point. -- CollisionCourse (talk) 00:03, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Also, why should the article be called "Stone Cold Steve Austin" when he also went by "Stunning Steve Austin" and his old school fans knew him by that name? I say the article should just be called "Steve Austin". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.133.63.5 (talk) 01:50, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Requested move (2010)

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The result of the move request was: Not moved. Jafeluv (talk) 08:35, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Stone Cold Steve Austin → Steve Austin (actor) — Relisted. Vegaswikian (talk) 00:21, 17 November 2010 (UTC) Steve Austin has retired from wrestling in 2003, and Stone Cold was his ring name. He has become an actor in 1998, and has been credited as Steve Austin since 2005. Dwayne Johnson is also a wrestler-turned-actor, but the article about him does not have his ring name on the title. I do not see why Stone Cold should be on the title of the article about Steve Austin. Wiiki pe  dian  11:41, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Given that we have to disambiguate anyway, I personally prefer to use a natural disambiguator rather than a parenthesized one. Powers T 13:05, 10 November 2010 (UTC)


 * See above. WP:COMMONNAME-- Unquestionable Truth -- 20:27, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I do agree with Wiikipedian on that front, or at least that it's arguable whether "Stone Cold" is part of his WP:COMMONNAME at this time. Powers T 22:12, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Should we try a google count?-- Unquestionable Truth -- 07:46, 11 November 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm not thrilled with the "(actor)" disambigautor, as he is probably still better known for his wrestling career than any subsequent acting work. How about a move to Steve Austin? Looking at the dab page, he is clearly the most notable individual known by this exact name. PC78 (talk) 07:53, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry, no way. The Six Million Dollar Man is right up there.  Powers T 12:10, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Debatable. PC78 (talk) 19:15, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Precisely! Powers T 20:19, 11 November 2010 (UTC)


 * OPPOSE OPPOSE OPPOSE He's been known as Stone Cold since King of the Ring (1996). And I'm pretty sure people outside WWE know him as Stone Cold not to mention WP:COMMONNAME.-- Nascar king  21:17, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I suggested before that the article name be moved to Steve Austin (entertainer), since he is an actor, and also makes part time appearances in the WWE.

Common Name is Stone Cold people know him as Stone Cold.-- Nascar king  23:55, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
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Requesting Restrictions
Someone who doesn't know the differences from ring names & nicknames keeps editing it the wrong way. I really suggest putting some editing limitations on this page because I feel the incorrect information is being given out and it can't be permanently changed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.155.239.149 (talk) 10:31, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Birth place
Early life section says he was born in Victoria, TX, but the info box says Austin, TX. I've always heard that he was born in Victoria, but I could be wrong. Can we get some clarification? Ryziun (talk) 05:11, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

He was born in Austin, TX, then moved to Victoria, TX. On his website, brokenskullranch.com, he has a biography page in which he states where he was born and places he's lived.98.87.35.149 (talk) 05:38, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Watching his A&E bio, he was born in Austin, moved from there to Edna; according to him, when he created the persona Stone Cold he choose Victoria, Texas from how the name sounds Mayumashu (talk) 13:37, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

Steve Austin's First Film
It was not the longest yard, it was beyond the mat 1997 where he came in front of the camera and started to talking to Mick Foley where they filmed back stage of the pay per view where Mankind defended his WWE Championship against the Rock. I want credit for this too. AnthonyTheGamer (talk) 22:23, 20 June 2011 (UTC) AnthonyTheGamer

Name confusion
His name at the start of the article, "born Steven James Anderson, later and formerly Steven James Williams; December 18, 1964" confused me. It reads as if he had a pre-birth name of Williams, was then born Anderson, and later changed it back to Williams. What does 'later and formerly' mean in this context? The only thing I can think of is it's supposed to be 'formally', but even that wouldn't really make sense. Can someone clarify in the article? BulbaThor (talk) 17:33, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
 * He was born Steven Anderson, then his name was changed (after his mother's remarriage) to Williams, and that was his formerly his name, until he changed it by law to Steve Austin, so that he could use a trademarked name to star in films. It reads fine. Darrenhusted (talk) 18:33, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * It was clarified but Gattusomahdi90 deleted the "Early life" section. I've restored it. --Jtalledo (talk) 19:13, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

What about "Stunning" Steve Austin?
There's an entire article about this guy and not one mention of his history as "Stunning Steve Austin" the metrosexual 'hollywood blonde'? I mean, I get that this page is probably written and upkept by fanboys, and that 'stunning' and 'stone cold' are two polar opposite characters, but it should at least get mentioned...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hollywood_Blonds#Steve_Austin_and_Brian_Pillman — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.166.186.150 (talk) 16:55, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Alternative name for the Stunner
The "Stone Cold Stunner" was briefly renamed "The 3:16" in 1996. Specifically, this name was introduced on the November 3, 1996 episode of "Superstars of Wrestling".

Here are a couple of references to the name change:

I haven't come across a good quality source, so I haven't added this to the article, but if anyone can find a good source (or can reference the original footage), it'd be worth adding in.

McPhail (talk) 15:32, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Personal Life
Steve Austin does not have three (3) daughters by Jeannie Clark, he only has two. My reliable source for that information is his website, brokenskullranch.com, where he states on his biography page that he has two daughters (Stephanie & Cassidy) and a stepdaughter (Jade).

Also, the source citation used for: "However it is also reported that Loren is an upcoming heiress to a large fortune due to a family friend which passed that left everything to her when she turns 21 to share with her two sisters. [52]" is not valid. I own a copy of the book "The Stone Cold Truth" and read over the pages cited (p. 95-97). On those pages, he is not discussing anything about his family. He is relaying stories about when he was in the WCW.

Hope this is helpful. Feel free to check out his website.

98.87.35.149 (talk) 06:06, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Podcast
Just a mere updating to this page: there should be a mentioning of his podcast show which he currently hosts. This is called "The Steve Austin Show" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.160.168.133 (talk) 04:07, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

WrestleMania XXX Potential Return Rumors
Stone Cold has been rumored to potentially return to Wrestlemania 30 to face triple h. many fans also say that he may return to face cm punk in wrestle mania 30 because Stone Cold has talked trash about cm punk for more thank a year now on his podcasts and videos — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.141.154.205 (talk) 07:55, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Austin's Tribute to Benoit
I was looking at your article and I happened to notice that you didn't add his taped tribute to Chris Benoit. Is it because of space reasons or other reasons — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.138.212.177 (talk) 03:58, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Requested move 2014

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The result of the proposal was not moved. --BDD (talk) 23:38, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Stone Cold Steve Austin → Steve Austin – A google search for "Steve Austin wrestler" gives only three results that refer to him as Stone Cold Steve Austin, while the other two results besides this page use quotes to differentiate the stage name/title. As a wrestling outsider, it was very strange to see the stage name listed in the article title instead of the first sentence. Following WP:COMMONNAME would indicate to me you should use what he is known as, which from this cursory search would indicate Steve Austin to be the best pick. The fact that other entities put quotes around his stage name would indicate it isn't part of his name. WhiteCube (talk) 19:37, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment "Steve Austin" was moved to Stephen Austin late last year without discussion. -- 70.50.148.248 (talk) 00:50, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
 * This is weird. Support Red Slash 03:00, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Oppose He's not known solely as simply "Steve Austin" to the wrestling world. That would be considered half his in-ring name. No, he was always known as "Stone Cold" Steve Austin. You didn't hear Jim Ross scream "STEVE AUSTIN STUNNER!" did you? Hitmonchan (talk) 18:25, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Strong Support per google books. "Steve Austin" = 69 pages of book results and "Stone Cold Steve Austin" = 36 pages of book results. Also have a look at this NGram search for both lots of names. It is clear what the WP:COMMONNAME is. IJA (talk) 23:50, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
 * 'Comment that doesn't prove anything since many of those hits are not about the wrestler. -- 70.50.148.248 (talk) 04:53, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Oppose "Steve Austin" is the Six Million Dollar Man. The disambiguation page should be restored to "Steve Austin" as it was moved without discussion. The wrestler usually appears as "Stone Cold Steve Austin" in wrestling contexts. -- 70.50.148.248 (talk) 04:53, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Strongly Oppose Original "Steve Austin" goes back to the 1972 novels and the Six Million Dollar Man. Just because no one noticed the Steve Austin redirect doesn't mean it was the correct choice. Where did you ask for inclusion in the discussion from editors on the Steve Austin (fictional character) or Six Million Dollar Man pages?!?! The redirect should immediately be changed pending the outcome of this discussion. Ckruschke (talk) 17:54, 4 February 2014 (UTC)Ckruschke
 * Oppose, Doesn't matter if it's WP:COMMONNAME as it's not WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for Steve Austin. If you want to lose the Stone Cold you could resubmit as Steve Austin (wrestler) but doubt you would gain consensus for parenthetical disambiguation. Zarcadia (talk) 22:54, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
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 * Participants in the above discussion may be interested in the subsequent RfD of Steve Austin; see Redirects for discussion/Log/2014 February 7. --BDD (talk) 23:43, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Television Appearances
Quick question: Why are his television appearances in Spanish? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.199.64.221 (talk) 14:06, 16 April 2014 (UTC) When you watch a Spanish TV channel they dub it to Spanish so the Spanish speakers can understand it.Robinrobin (talk) 02:24, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

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Siblings.
Shouldn't they be mentioned? Acording to his bio on brokenskullranch.com he has three brothers, Scott, Kevin, and Jeff and one sister, Jennifer.

He has mentioned them in his autobiography too.

I'm going to add it to the article.&#42;Treker (talk) 02:37, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

https://twitter.com/steveaustinBSR/status/675438745227784192?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Domestic violence case section removal undone.
I strongly disagree that this is irrelevant information about Steve Austin's personal life and I have undone it's removal. The case is well known and the section is sourced. I don't see any reason why it should all be removed at all.&#42;Treker (talk) 00:40, 25 December 2015 (UTC)

WWE Did Not Give Austin The Stone Cold Name
The article seems to mistakenly suggest that the WWE gave him the name "Stone Cold" by associating it with other "ice" related names. True, they did suggest some but Austin himself said repeatedly in interviews that while the gimmick was inspired by watching a program which profiled serial killers, the name came from an incident when he and his wife at the time were sitting drinking tea. She was from England and while he was thinking up wrestling names, she said he should drink his tea before it was "stone cold", she then said, "That's your name, Stone Cold Steve Austin!"MARK VENTURE (talk) 03:53, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
 * That's just what made him want it (unless he made the story up). After he asked for it, the WWF gave it to him. Without all the TV and merchandise, it would've just been a weird idea that went nowhere. Wrestlers can't always get what they want. But sometimes they get what they need. InedibleHulk (talk) 02:21, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

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Italics
There seems to be some issue, the article title is in italics right now.★Trekker (talk) 12:02, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * this happened because infobox podcast was trancluded. It auto-italicizes the PAGENAME. There's a way to override it, but it also overrides the italics in the infobox caption. Best option would be forking this content over to a separate article. If there's any takers, here's the code. Jay D. Easy&#8202;(t&#8202;•&#8202;c) 15:37, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Pinging Piotr Bart. Felt like this may be of interest to you as its creator. Also, the infobox code is now a hidden comment, because using pre and div tags messed up this page more than I'd foreseen. Jay D. Easy&#8202;(t&#8202;•&#8202;c) 16:02, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I think the podcast is notable enough for it's own article.★Trekker (talk) 16:52, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

STONE COLD STEVE AUSTIN also showed up fo RAW reunion — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.45.86.151 (talk) 18:07, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Citations in lead
ItsKesha has been removing all citations from the lead section, citing WP:LEAD. However, the Manual of Style page in question states (emphasis added):

The verifiability policy advises that material that is challenged or likely to be challenged, and direct quotations, should be supported by an inline citation. Any statements about living persons that are challenged or likely to be challenged must have an inline citation every time they are mentioned, including within the lead. Leads are usually written at a greater level of generality than the body, and information in the lead section of non-controversial subjects is less likely to be challenged and less likely to require a source; there is not, however, an exception to citation requirements specific to leads. The necessity for citations in a lead should be determined on a case-by-case basis by editorial consensus.

Statements that Austin is "one of the greatest and most influential professional wrestlers of all time" and was "integral to the success of the Attitude Era" should be cited. There is absolutely no harm in overciting, but there is potential harm in applying a blanket policy of no citations when this is not supported by the MoS. GaryColemanFan (talk) 17:46, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi . The first of those statements (greatest and most influential) is already sourced in the article, and additional sources will be found. The second of those statements (Attitude Era) isn't even mentioned anywhere else in the article, so should really be mentioned somewhere in the body of the article before it is even included in the lead. Featured articles, by and large, don't include any citations in the lead. Hence, editorially, if I we want this article to become a featured article, it shouldn't have citations in the lead. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 18:08, 19 June 2021 (UTC)


 * ItsKesha is a 2020 editor making changes that I feel are best left to pre 2015 senior experienced editors (I myself only registered in 2019, so don't make such changes), also disguising edits in the name of removing unreliable sources ItsKesha is also removing extremely reliable WP:PW/RS such as PWTORCH just to make the article more fit according to his preference. These issues regarding him were brought here before even on ANI discussions, not just by me but other editors, also ItsKesha has received countless warnings from various editors of wrestling and football articles for unconstructive edits, but caught in the act Its Kesha removes those warnings from talk page, but they can be easily viewed regarding his talk page history. Also shameless edit warring is not a nice behavior, but User:ItsKesha just keeps on doing that. I always politely request ItsKesha to WP:RfC and generate opinions from senior editors, but he never dares do that fearing that the consensus will not go in his favor. Just look at all the warnings he received on his page history that he tries to hide. I am sorry if this sounds like a personal attack but after the laters removal of PWTORCH claiming it is unreliable, when it is not and the aggressive edit warring, I just have no word. I am leaving the matter to members of the project page who are more senior than both me and ItsKesha to judge, and I apologise to User:ItsKesha if what I said sounds like a personal attack, but its not, I am just merely pointing out your behavior which worths an ANI discussion, but I don't feel like it and WP:PW is already under general sanction so I don't want to add more burden to it. But I request senior editors here to be more vigilant regarding ItsKesha's edit. Cheers. Dilbaggg (talk) 18:49, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Not a single comment about the issue raised by GaryColemanFan. Any comment on that,, or are you just being a WUM? All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 20:34, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Well I did mention you suspiciously remove an established reliable source PWTORCH calling it unreliable, even though it is extremely reliable according to WP:PW/RS and nothing says citations in the lead cannot be used, and you are indeed shamelessly borderline edit warring in almost all articles and refuse to seek WP:RfC consensus afraid that other editors will disagree with you. Anyway I think this discussion should be moved to the pro wrestling talk page and left for senior editors (which I am not I admit, but neither are you, although I watch wrestling since 1999) to judge. Dilbaggg (talk) 21:20, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
 * As usual you are completely and utterly wrong in every conceivable way. I demonstrably removed the PW Torch source with the summary of "removing sources and info as per WP:LEAD". And FYI, the source in question doesn't even support the statement it is supposed to support (Austin being the "poster boy" of the Attitude Era), so just because something is a "reliable source", doesn't mean it merits inclusion and/or can't be removed. So, I'll ask again, do you have any comments regarding having citations in the lead? Just know, if you type another wall of text, I'm not reading it and I'm not responding. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 22:09, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
 * If you want to remove a WP:RS information that other editors do not want to remove, you should seek consensus with WP:RfC, cheers. Dilbaggg (talk) 00:10, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
 * You've already established several times you won't know what a reliable source is, you've already established several times you don't know Wikipedia policy, and you've already established several times you're a rubbish editor who won't discuss things. Stop reverting edits by telling ridiculous lies when you've already been told why you're wrong in every conceivable way. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 16:05, 20 June 2021 (UTC)


 * ItsKesha No idea what you are talking about, I am stating valid points in the name of removing bad sources you have removed extremely reliable WP:PW/RS such as PWTORCH, i saw you make amends and add some good contents on this article so I am dropping the matter now, but I urge you to not remove WP:PW/RS contents again without seeking proper consensus through WP:RfC. Best wishes.. Dilbaggg (talk) 23:12, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Do you have a faulty memory? All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 23:38, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Picture
Can we get a different picture for the article header? The one there is where he had a very different look for a movie and not his traditional and still current look? Heddingite (talk) 23:36, 28 January 2024 (UTC)