Talk:Stono Rebellion/Archive 1

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My friendly edit-- The Stono Rebellion was one of the first organized slave rebellions in the Americas, not the United States seeing as the United States did not exist at the time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Michaellsworth (talk • contribs) 21:37, September 7, 2006

'''The Stono Rebellion (1739) and the Great Slave Conspiracy (1741) were Catholic plots to undermine Protestant England during the Global Catholic-Protestant conflict known in America as the "French & Indian Wars" (1689-1787). The Stono Rebellion & Great Slave Conspiracy occurred precisely as the "War of Jenkins' Ear" and "War of Austrian Succession" were flaring up — between Protestants and Catholics — in Europe.''' —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.143.68.244 (talk • contribs) 02:05, July 20, 2007


 * The Stono Rebellion was not a Catholic plot to undermine Protestant England. Nor does it have anything to do with the French & Indian War, which occured fifteen years later. The slaves who took part in the uprising sought to break free from slavery and recover a sense of martial indentity. The drumming, dancing, and the beheadings of white colonists were all manifestations of their West African origins and an explosive act of resistance to the novel and brutal life in South Carolina that had been opposed upon them. S0569035 (talk) 10:58, 27 April 2009 (UTC)


 * The Great Slave Conspiracy of 1741 was not a Catholic plot, either, although people worried about England's tensions with Spain looked for those connection, and determined John Uhry, a schoolteacher who knew Latin, was a likely Catholic plotter. They managed to try and execute him in an atmosphere akin to the Salem witch trials.--Parkwells (talk) 12:55, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Confusing Sentence
The following sentence does not make sense:

"The next day, the well-armed and mounted militia, numbering 20–100 men, caught up with the group of 80 slaves at the Edisto River. In the ensuing confrontation, 20 whites and 44 slaves were killed. While the slaves lost..."

If there were 20 militia men and 20 whites were killed, how is it that the slaves lost the battle? It seems that the the range from 20-100 is incorrect. But, I don't know what the range should be, so I can't correct it. I just know that 20 doesn't make sense here. Van Vidrine (talk) 14:29, 9 September 2011 (UTC)


 * I came here to make the same comment the 'numbering 20-100 men' phrase must be incorrect. Seki1949 (talk) 02:18, 19 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Tagged cn. I could find no source that gives any size for the militia group. It seems that the action continued over days, and perhaps the numbers of militia fluctuated: if this is the case, the phrasing lacks clarity.  Either way, it needs a source. Richigi (talk) 16:20, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

Distance from Stono to Florida
The distance from Stono river to the Florida line is not 50 miles, more like 150 "as the crow flies".

Information Discrepancy
The following article lists the number of casualties for whites, approximately half of the estimate of this one: Timeline of events leading to the American Civil War — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.34.7.155 (talk) 08:26, 3 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Good catch! Interestingly, both articles cite the same source: Ballard C. Campbell, ed. American Disasters: 201 Calamities That Shook the Nation (2008) pp 22-23. Fortunately, those pages are accessible through Google Books. The source says: "Sixty to 100 slaves killed about 25 whites in St. Paul Parish, South Carolina. In all, perhaps 35 slaves lost their lives."
 * In American Negro Slave Revolts (pages 187–189), Herbert Aptheker came to a slightly different conclusion. He cites accounts contemporary with the rebellion and concludes: "The number of casualties resulting from this uprising are not precisely known but probably about twenty-five whites and twice that number of slaves were killed in the course of the uprising and its suppression."
 * The two sources agree that about 25 white people were killed, but they differ about the number of black people killed. I suspect the key to the difference is in the last two words in Aptheker's sentence: the suppression of the rebellion. According to Aptheker, the search for escaped rebels continued for months after the rebellion was defeated. One contemporary account he quotes says that 14 rebels were killed in battle, and in the first ten days of pursuit another 20 were killed and 40 captured, "who were immediately some shot, some hang'd, and some Gibbeted alive."
 * I will edit both articles, citing the two sources, to say that 25 white people and 35 to 50 black people were killed. Thank you for pointing out this inconsistency. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 05:19, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

Figures
The numbers given for causalities/forces on both sides are wildly over the map. An expert in this topic needs to harmonize these estimates and correct the totals in the infobox appropriately.

September 1739
The article, like Herbert Aptheker's American Negro Slave Revolts and other academic sources for the Stono rebellion records the 9th of September 1739 as a Sunday. However, online sources say that the 9th of September 1739 should have been a Wednesday. I haven't amended the article because I am unfamiliar with editing Wikipedia, and I don't know what would cause this inconsistency or which source(s) are authoritative.

Considering the feast of Mary on the 8th of September and the following day being recorded as the Sabbath in academic works, I think that this small detail is actually pretty important to framing the religious motivations of the enslaved people. Is anyone else noticing this inconsistency? Gwm1522 (talk) 22:03, 11 November 2022 (UTC)