Talk:Stout Batwing

Deletion?
I was on the verge of nominating for deletion as it is so poorly written. It still needs a lot of work though.Petebutt (talk) 10:31, 10 September 2010 (UTC) I have editted out muy contentious remark, SorryPetebutt (talk) 10:46, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Two different Batwings
The article History reveals a bit of a ping-pong match over whether "the Batwing" had a fuselage or not. Looking wider, this website documents how Stout built several machines and that the first two at least were named "Batwing". The accompanying photographs show that the first machine was a flying wing with no distinct fuselage, while the full-scale one was a more conventional high-wing cabin monoplane. This might explain the editorial difficulty. HTH. &mdash; Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 11:26, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh, yes, and one thing that neither of then was, was a blended wing body: the fuselage was either there or it wasn't, no half measures for Stout. &mdash; Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 11:37, 28 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Or three...
 * The first was the batwing glider with no fuselage at all.
 * The second batwing was the Batwing Vampire, again with no fuselage - but the page lists it as a precursor.
 * The third was the Batwing limousine with a full fuselage completely below the wing. All had very broad chord wings with fairly thin section airfoil that due to the chord was thick enough to provide structural depth, but not the aerodynamic advantages of the Junkers wing. I am thinking the page will have to either cover all types or be renamed as one and the others created. NiD.29 (talk) 12:10, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I don't know much about Stout's body of work but there was obviously a need to bring the issue out into the fresh air. Whichever way it goes, I hope that all of his designs end up with appropriate treatment and decent citation. &mdash; Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 13:46, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Most of what I know came from aerofiles - and they didn't have much to say. He did have some very unusual designs, but finding references and enough to say about each is a challenge.NiD.29 (talk) 02:02, 29 November 2015 (UTC)