Talk:Strictly Come Dancing series 19

Strictly
Add strictly tilly waltz 21 on the highest score Dougiej2008 (talk) 18:35, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

Didn’t Tilly score 34 for her Charleston? 8,9,9,8 is 34. JuliannetheClarkson (talk) 20:10, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

Ratings
The launch show achieved a viewing figure of 8.51 million. It was the second highest rated programme of the week for all UK TV and for BBC1. I'd add it to the article, but it cannot be edited by mere users, only the elite.75.144.22.62 (talk) 21:50, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 2 October 2021
Greg's Couple's Choice routine was Disco. JackS75 (talk) 20:29, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:59, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 3 October 2021
89.127.22.154 (talk) 17:54, 3 October 2021 (UTC) I wish to put Tom and Amy score at 0 due to Sickness


 * No. Under the rules of the show, they were given a "bye" to the following week. So they do not appear in the tables at all. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:31, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 8 October 2021
Please add the following sentence to the article introduction

In this series, the contestants were no longer restricted to perform one of the "couple's choice" categories contemporary, theatre/jazz or street/commercial and could instead incorporate the routine however they wished.


 * ❌ No objection, if that's a fact and there is a good source. But a source dated 17 December 2020 can't be used to support something that happened in September 2021. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:41, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I've blocked this IP for block evasion.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 18:58, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Ooh, block evasion, is that something from the 60s? Martinevans123 (talk) 21:08, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 10 October 2021
Katie and Gorka highest scoring dance is wrong it is American Smooth (24) 88.144.137.149 (talk) 12:07, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting wait.svg Already done --Ferien (talk) 12:31, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 16 October 2021
89.19.67.78 (talk) 19:51, 16 October 2021 (UTC) I don't want any editiors to put scores up
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:54, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

Ratings update
Unfortunatley, despite wikipedia being "the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit", only the wiki elite are allowed to edit this particular article. Mere riff-raff mortals may not. Thus the ratings data confirmed by BARB will have to be put in the article by a wiki elite member. The ratings for Week 3, October 9 were 9.8 and October 10 were 8.36. These were the top two rated shows for the week broadcast on BBC1. However, for the second week running, BARB have not included any figures for Channel 4 in their summary and thus it is not necessarily correct to claim the ratings as the two top rated shows across all UK channels. Bake Off is currently running on Channel 4 and likely to be getting very high audiences. Without that data, the article is not correct in asserting Strictly is getting the highest figures and an appropriate note should be made in this section of the article.76.160.6.50 (talk) 16:10, 18 October 2021 (UTC)


 * This editor is absolutely correct. The ratings data used as of November 8, 2021, is incorrect. BARB have only now this week included the Channel 4 figures in the data for October/November 2021. As a result, Strictly is not the no.1 & no.2 programme each week as wikipedia is reporting. Surely accuracy is the whole point of locking a page? You are fearful someone might "vandalize" the page, yet you don't care that the ratings data is wrong? Strange.93.56.240.196 (talk) 17:12, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 30 October 2021
213.205.241.11 (talk) 18:32, 30 October 2021 (UTC) John and Johannes average score is incorrect, 200 over 6 is actually 33.3 and not 33.4 so it should say 33.3 and not 33.4
 * ✅ DigitalChutney (talk) 19:32, 30 October 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 6 November 2021
2A02:C7F:6CB1:2800:B08D:903D:DA16:B9E4 (talk) 19:43, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. DigitalChutney (talk) 20:31, 7 November 2021 (UTC)

Strictly Tumble Week 1
1. 2.
 * Buzz and Forky
 * 21 [1, 8, 9, 1]
 * Will Brisbin
 * A Furchester Never Gives Up-Phoebe, Cookie Monster and Funella
 * Billy and Woody
 * 21 [8, 8, 8, 8]
 * Josh Elwell
 * Who's in the House?-Justin, Robert and Little Monster song
 * }

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 6 November 2021 (2)
Rhys and Nancy's average is currently incorrect. 224 over 7 is equal to 32 and it currently says 31.7 so it should be changed to 32. 213.205.241.33 (talk) 19:52, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting wait.svg Already done DigitalChutney (talk) 20:28, 7 November 2021 (UTC)

Rose & Giovanni, Week 8
User:Maurellen, I see you started editing 2 days ago. Do you realise that Rose is the first deaf contestant in the history of this competition? Do you realise what courage it might take for a deaf person to enter? Do you think the comments made by all four judges and the extraordinary scores they gave were somehow just for show? And yet you choose to describe this small but precious detail as "gossip"?? Wow. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:43, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
 * And now also User:Kiwi Jaden but this time with no explanation at all? Martinevans123 (talk) 20:46, 14 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Don’t come for me. We never include judges comments in this section, and Dani Harmer’s Argentine Tango in 2012 also started off silent. Maurellen (talk) 21:00, 14 November 2021 (UTC)


 * FYI I think Rose should win this series and she’s a fantastic dancer but this is an encyclopaedia. Maurellen (talk) 21:01, 14 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Yes, this is an encyclopaedia. And you think that was just "gossip". Wow. And "we never include judges comments in this section"... since 18:44 on 13 November 2021, when you started editing? Martinevans123 (talk) 21:06, 14 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Yes and I still know more than you do clearly. If you look back at previous seasons, notes are only added if a couple does not perform or withdraws.Maurellen (talk) 21:13, 14 November 2021 (UTC)


 * I agree there's a pattern. But I have seen no discussion or consensus on this convention. Where would you place this detail, which has been reported so widely and which seems to be unique in Strictly history so far? Do you find HuffPost a "gossipy tabloid"? Many other sources are available. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:06, 14 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Our personal preferences as to "who should win this series" really don't come into it. Even if there is an (assumed) consensus that judges' comments are not added, the text could easily to reworked to remove Du Beke's direct quote. If "notes are only added if a couple does not perform or withdraws", this very notable detail is still worthy of mention somewhere. It was featured in a discussion about disability on this morning's Today on BBC Radio 4. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:35, 15 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Also featured on BBC News at Six this evening. Obviously, a major news story. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:29, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

I guess it might be placed in the lead. Except that the lead is meant to be a summary of the article. Except it's not. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:50, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

Revel Horwood absence
Revel Horwood has not been absent for Week 9, and "there were only three judges" is not correct, because the week 9 show has not yet happened. The average scores do not yet include Week 9. This is WP:CRYSTAL. More notably, the article has been edited again here to say: "He will therefore miss week 9 of the competition, making it the first and only time Revel Horwood will not appear on the judging panel since the show's inception in 2004." But this is unsourced. The BBC report says only "Revel Horwood is the only judge to have been part of every series of Strictly". Martinevans123 (talk) 08:36, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Similarly this edit adds: "Due to the absence of Craig Revel Horwood, the couples were scored on a 30-point scale." No couples have been scored. No couples have even danced yet. Readers might find this confusing. Thus should be added when a couple has danced next Saturday night. Else the tense should be corrected. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:47, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
 * It seems the preferred view is "it's only four days, so let it be wrong for four days"? I'm not sure you'll find many sources that describe next Saturday in the past tense. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:36, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I've blocked the editor making the contested edits as a sock of ZestyLemonz, who really needs to find a hobby other than editing reality TV articles and slagging off whoever disagrees with them.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 22:14, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Many thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:15, 16 November 2021 (UTC) ...User:AllThingsOffensive?

Guest judges have been used, at short notice, in the past. I suspect the producer might still be considering that, as a less disruptive option, until the last possible moment. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:36, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 16 November 2021
the dances have been announced for musicals week 92.251.82.190 (talk) 21:23, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:24, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 20 November 2021
Rhys and Nancy scored a total of 32 [8,8,8,8] 213.205.241.153 (talk) 19:25, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Tol  (talk &#124; contribs) @ 19:35, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 1 December 2021
Please add mentions for the guest judges during the Week 9 and 10 weekly summaries. Craig and Motsi's departures are briefly touched upon at the top of the article, but there is nothing during the summaries. Dancing on Ice (series 13) follows a similar pattern, mentioning the departures of couples at the top of the article as well as during the summaries. XxLuckyCxX (talk) 23:26, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:53, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Under Weekly scores and songs, subsection Week 9 (6.10), mention Craig was absent: "On 15 November it was announced Craig Revel Horwood had tested positive for COVID-19, was self-isolating following the latest government guidelines and would therefore miss week 9 of the competition. On 19 November, it was announced Cynthia Erivo would replace him on the judging panel for that week." Please cite https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-59298891.amp and https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/strictlycomedancing/entries/484015bc-0dc8-4494-91a0-6ea529ee51b9

Under Weekly scores and songs, subsection Week 10 (6.11), mention Motsi was absent: "On 26 November it was announced Motsi Mabuse had come into contact with someone who had tested positive for COVID-19. Whilst Mabuse was double vaccinated (which would mean exemption from the self-isolation guidelines), the UK government did not recognise her vaccines so would not be able to travel back from Germany. It was announced that Cynthia Erivo would return to the judging panel, replacing Mabuse for that week." Please site https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-59433988

If you need me to clarify anything, please ask. Thank you. XxLuckyCxX (talk) 00:11, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ DigitalChutney (talk) 18:01, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting comment.svg Note: I have now noticed that the information added by this request had already been mentioned in the lead. I have combined the references for now but the additions may be removed as it could be seen as repetitive . DigitalChutney (talk) 20:31, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 11 December 2021
Rose Ayling-Ellis should have the highest score in Waltz after tonight's episode. Adeafkiwi (talk) 21:35, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:55, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

Black television presenter?
Not sure AJ Odudu would be happy at being a ‘black television presenter.’ Let’s not define people by skin colour. 2A02:C7F:3938:900:840:B4A1:D4A8:EFCF (talk) 20:01, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
 * We have no problem with "defining people" by their occupation. By all means offer a more elegant way of conveying the series' diversity. Or a "less offensive" way, if you think it's offensive to describe someone as black. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:40, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

RFC impacting this page
Hey! I've recently opened an RFC regarding some of the colours used in the scoring chart for this and several other articles. You can find the discussion here - please feel free to share your thoughts. Thanks!  Rema goxer  (talk) 01:54, 28 December 2022 (UTC)