Talk:String Quartet No. 19 (Mozart)

Can anyone point to a reliable reference that calls this the "dissonant" quartet? I've always heard it called "dissonance," with "dissonant" just being an incorrect misreading. In school, Robert Levin and Lewis Lockwood were adamant on this point. Thanks. -- Myke Cuthbert (talk) 01:08, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

2nd score extract wrongly notated.
I am referring to the second extract from the score, which corresponds to the bars in the midi file, illustrating the dissonant introduction.

I think it must have been transcribed by someone from the midi file, because the enharmonics of the chromatic notes are all wrong - written entirely in sharps, where some of the notes should be flats (not only so written in the original score, but required according to theory). It makes the extract much more difficult to read and analyze when the enharmonic notation is wrong.

Also, the viola part is written in the tenor clef, not the alto clef as it should be.

I don't know how to correct this, but feel it should be done. The extract should be copied directly from an authentic score, not transcribed by someone without reference to the score. I suppose if the other extracts (which look as if copied from the score) don't violate copyright, then this one won't either.

Does someone else know how to do this? Thanks. M.J.E. (talk) 16:02, 14 May 2010 (UTC)


 * You are right. That score snippet is pretty odd.  It originates from an article on the German wikipedia on quartet harmony: de:Quartenharmonik.  I'm not sure how we would go about changing that particular image.  Maybe we could just remove the image?  I don't see any text in this article that references the image. It could be that someone saw the image in the commons and figured the more score snippets the better, but in this case, the odd clef and enharmonics could be confusing.  I added a link to the NMA score in the external links.DavidRF (talk) 16:32, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I removed the image from the article. Its attached below for reference:  [[Image:Mozart KV 465 Quarten for wikipedia.png|thumb|none|600px|Measures 11 to 17 from the first movement of Mozart's String Quartet KV 465]]
 * DavidRF (talk) 16:34, 14 May 2010 (UTC)