Talk:Stromboli (food)

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 * I really want to assume good faith about your post, so before I take offense at your use of the word spam I am going to post my justification. The article is listed under Category:Philadelphia cuisine, and features Philadelphia in the article. Philadelphia is an eating-town. The portal is appropriate. --South Philly 13:02, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Stromboli vs Calzone: Sauce in or out?
In practice, I've noticed that Stromboli's usually contain pizza or marinara sauce, while calzones are accompanied by a separate dipping sauce and no sauce inside the calzone itself. I have no idea how to confirm this, aside from looking up recipe's online, but what sort of authority do online recipes represent? So for the moment, I'm asking around for opinions. (doubleposted at each article in question)

--El benito 02:57, 15 September 2006 (UTC)


 * My experience has been just the opposite. Here in Toronto, calzones (sometimes called panzarotti) generally have tomato sauce inside, while stromboli has no sauce inside and comes with a dipping sauce. Although some places do larger calzones/panzarotti and serve them on a plate with sauce poured over top - in this case, there usually isn't any sauce inside. -- GregClow 19:18, 27 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I have had stromboli from many places and have never seen it with sauce in it. 24.58.44.178 07:22, 6 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Being from Jersey, I'm actually surprised at the number of people that disagree with you. We have a fairly large Italian American population, and my strombolis always have had sauce inside.  I'm used to calzones being without sauce, or having some on the side.  I suppose it depends on the area.  I'm on travel and ordered a boli tonight that came sliced; it had sauce inside and on the side.  Also, I've always eaten bolis by hand, calzones with a knife and fork. -Asia1281- (talk) 04:36, 1 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I'd like to point out: it seems to me the more distinguishing factor between a stromboli and a calzone is not the sauce but that a calzone usually includes a generous helping of ricotta cheese. In my own experience, stromboli and stuffed pizza do not contain ricotta. 96.56.198.62 (talk) 17:35, 18 September 2017 (UTC) KC

stromboli?
in italy i haven't never heared this type of food. --83.190.227.253 02:03, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm italian and i confirm: this "stromboli" is neither a "classical" nor tipical food (and not a regional food). Maybe it's an american-italian restaurant invention or an idea of some restaurant in Italy, but it's not a "tipical" product in italy. Pizza is everywhere from south to north of italy, and so for the "calzone"; recently you can find something called "rotolo" and "roll-up" (sigh...); "rotolo" is like a calzone, "roll-up" something is made of piadina stuffed with something and ... rolled up! :) ... but not for "stromboli".Wikit2007 14:00, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Stromboli has only been around about 20 years. It started in the north east USA from a movie called....wait for it....Stromboli — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.193.184.198 (talk) 00:46, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

ahahahah è vero ma che roba sarebbe lo stomboli? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.10.146.186 (talk) 00:00, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Picture
Here is a picture of one. Maybe I will replace it at a future time. But anyway, Stromboli does not have sauces in it - its more like a baked sandwich. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.90.166.40 (talk • contribs)


 * I feel like the second picture is unnecessary, not only is the stromboli itself very messy looking, the image is also a little blurry- the first image is sharp and professional looking- for an article this short I feel that one image is plenty. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Himynameishelen (talk • contribs) 16:12, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

I' m Italian....
Sorry but We' ve never hearnt about "STROMBOLI" in Italy...


 * Is anyone actually claiming that people in Italy eat stromboli? Oh, I suppose there's that sentence about people who think it was invented in Stromboli.  I think it's fairly well-understood that stromboli is not a food eaten in Italy (even if it comes under the heading of "Italian cooking" in the US-- see also American Chinese cuisine). The Wednesday Island (talk) 20:02, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Nobody is claming nothing, but in the article it was written that the Stromboli is an Italian food, this is wrong! In Italy none know what is that food.

it's an old world Italian food, probably roman in origin. It's like certain other Italian things Italians don't eat anymore. Markthemac (talk) 19:05, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

no sorry, I' m Italian and it' s not an old italian food, the origin of the word comes from latin, in Italy Stromboli is only a Sicilian volcano.


 * Stromboli is definitely non-Italian, nobody would understand what you mean if you ever ordered a stromboli here. I guess the name was originally a trademark for this type of turnover, probably referring to its aspect which reminds of a volcano in a figurative sense (the tomato sauce and the other ingredients coming out from the inside....); some Italian pizzerias, for example, serve a pizza called pizza Vesuvio and the name is clearly based on the Vesuvius volcano as well. Local trademarks like stromboli sometimes get out of their "localism" and make their way in the rest of the country or even abroad (e.g. fettuccine Alfredo, tiramisu, tramezzini, etc.), good for stromboli and its inventor! As an Italian, I'm not familiar with this turnover and I would just call it rotolo di pizza ("pizza roll").--Teno85 (talk) 02:43, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

calzone vs stromboli
Like usual the texts are completely unclear "Many American pizza shops serve a stromboli using pizza dough that is folded in half with fillings, similar to a calzone." ?? whatever that may mean, still it becomes even weirder if one checks the Lemma "Calzone" where it says that " the two are similar but traditionally different"

So we have Pizza shops that serves a stromboli (the same but traditionally different from a Calzone)  and then folds it like a Calzone. ?????? (facepalm)

Whereas it is so easy" A calzone is a dough with filling and then folded over once and sealed at the edges. Usually covered in a sauce. A stromboli is a flat dough, covered with toppings and then rolled like a swiss roll and carved or punched so the cheese can 'ouze out'. Yeah, like a vulcano.

I agree with "I am an Italian" The Stromboli is not an Italian dish albeit made with stuff traditionally used in Italian cuisine. It stems from the USA and has just as much to do with Italian cooking as Pizza Hawaii

History and the movie comment.
To claim provenance of fact based on when a movie was, or was not playing in a theater is pretty poor evidence, considering that in the 1950's, many movie houses played movies from earlier years, anyways. In 1982 I was in Kansas, and a local theater was showing Star Wars.

I realize that some may be emotionally and monetarily invested in "the first" anything, but I don't think Wikipedia is the place for VAGUE aspersions relating to the originality of a term. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Apostlethirteen (talk • contribs) 15:50, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

As far as I heard, the stromboli was invented in New Brunswick, New Jersey. There is a restaurant called Stuff Yer Face which claims to have invented it.77.124.164.92 (talk) 13:47, 26 October 2010 (UTC)


 * The article is not likely to be improved by basing its text on "hearsay". The (American) origin of the sandwich is apparently disputed, but the others claimants say it was invented about a quarter century before "Stuff Yer Face" opened in 1977.


 * As to the "Italian" question, the language of the article might need to reflect that this is an "Italian-American" food. And as to the controversy, I'm uncomfortable with the current wording, "falsely claim" ... wouldn't omitting "falsely" work here, allowing people to draw their own conclusion based on the given dates?  Renaissongsman (talk) 01:45, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Stromboli Sandwich?
This may fail the notability test, but when I was growing up in North-Central Indiana in the 1970s, a Stromboli was a type of sandwich, not a turnover. I consisted of a "submarine sandwich" style loaf, brushed with garlic butter, filled with cooked, crumbled Italian sausage, slices of mozzarella, onions, and marinara sauce, wrapped in foil and baked until crispy and melty. There was this little hole-in-the-wall pizza place on Dixon Road in Kokomo, where the pizza was awful, but the Stromboli sandwiches were legendary. IIRC, Mike's Pizza on Alto Road still offers a sandwich-style Stromboli. But I digress. Do any Midwestern readers recall this style of Stromboli as a regional variant, or is it just a highly local one-off? 71.67.120.193 (talk) 15:05, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

I have had sandwiches called strombolis like you describe in various parts of Indiana and Ohio. Then again, what Midwesterners call goulash would make a Hungarian swear and gnash his teeth! :) Boomcoach (talk) 21:04, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

That's definitely what my experience with strombolis in Northern Indiana and Southwestern Michigan, at least. When I was working in Baltimore I remember calling the pizza place and telling them they screwed up my order and sent me a calzone instead of the sandwich I was expecting. Pizza King is a chain that makes them that way, but Captain's Pizza the tiny town of Edwardsburg, Michigan made the best. Now I need an excuse to go back for a visit. 50.79.125.10 (talk) 20:22, 11 March 2015 (UTC) JC