Talk:Strongly interacting massive particle

Another meaning
SIMP is also an acronym for MITRE's "Simple Instant Messaging and Presence" protocol.
 * We don't seem to have an article on that at this time. RJFJR (talk) 02:11, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

Section for review
This section, added by one user in a series of edits, should be reviewed and edited for clarity RJFJR (talk) 02:07, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

 A strongly interactive dark matter is what waves in wave-particle duality in terms of Louis de Broglie's Double Solution Theory.

Non-linear Wave Mechanics: A Causal Interpretation - Louis de Broglie. Amsterdam: Elsevier, 1960.


 * “Since 1954, when this passage was written, I have come to support wholeheartedly an hypothesis proposed by Bohm and Vigier. According to this hypothesis, the random perturbations to which the particle would be constantly subjected, and which would have the probability of presence in terms of [the wave-function wave], arise from the interaction of the particle with a “subquantic medium” which escapes our observation and is entirely chaotic, and which is everywhere present in what we call “empty space”.”

"The interaction of the particle with a "subquantic medium"" is another way of describing a strongly interactive dark matter. In de Broglie's double solution theory, in a double slit experiment the particle travels through a single slit and the associated wave in the strongly interactive dark matter passes through both.

A strongly interactive dark matter medium would be displaced by the particles of matter that exist in it and move through it. This is what de Broglie was referring to when he said, "The interaction of the particle with a "subquantic medium"".

Aetherdisplacement (talk) 13:31, 5 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia is not a place for original research. If you believe that strongly interacting DM is the same as de Broglie's subquantic medium, publish your research in a reputable journal, do not deface an encyclopedia. vttoth (talk) 05:43, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

- What the following articles are referring to is a strongly interactive dark matter.

Fluid mechanics suggests alternative to quantum orthodoxy http://newsoffice.mit.edu/2014/fluid-systems-quantum-mechanics-0912


 * “The fluidic pilot-wave system is also chaotic. It’s impossible to measure a bouncing droplet’s position accurately enough to predict its trajectory very far into the future. But in a recent series of papers, Bush, MIT professor of applied mathematics Ruben Rosales, and graduate students Anand Oza and Dan Harris applied their pilot-wave theory to show how chaotic pilot-wave dynamics leads to the quantumlike statistics observed in their experiments.”

A “fluidic pilot-wave system” is the strongly interacting dark matter.

‘When Fluid Dynamics Mimic Quantum Mechanics’ http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/07/130729111934.htm


 * “If you have a system that is deterministic and is what we call in the business ‘chaotic,’ or sensitive to initial conditions, sensitive to perturbations, then it can behave probabilistically,” Milewski continues. “Experiments like this weren’t available to the giants of quantum mechanics. They also didn’t know anything about chaos. Suppose these guys — who were puzzled by why the world behaves in this strange probabilistic way — actually had access to experiments like this and had the knowledge of chaos, would they have come up with an equivalent, deterministic theory of quantum mechanics, which is not the current one? That’s what I find exciting from the quantum perspective.”

'1st place: Shifting the morals of quantum measurement' http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2011/dec/16/physics-world-reveals-its-top-10-breakthroughs-for-2011


 * "Using an emerging technique called "weak measurement", the team is the first to track the average paths of single photons passing through a Young's double-slit experiment – something that Steinberg says physicists had been "brainwashed" into thinking is impossible."

'Quantum mechanics rule 'bent' in classic experiment' http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-13626587


 * "For his part, Professor Steinberg believes that the result reduces a limitation not on quantum physics but on physicists themselves. "I feel like we're starting to pull back a veil on what nature really is," he said. "The trouble with quantum mechanics is that while we've learned to calculate the outcomes of all sorts of experiments, we've lost much of our ability to describe what is really happening in any natural language. I think that this has really hampered our ability to make progress, to come up with new ideas and see intuitively how new systems ought to behave.""

'New 'Double Slit' Experiment Skirts Uncertainty Principle' http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=new-double-slit-experiment-skirts-uncertainty-principle


 * "Intriguingly, the trajectories closely match those predicted by an unconventional interpretation of quantum mechanics known as pilot-wave theory, in which each particle has a well-defined trajectory that takes it through one slit while the associated wave passes through both slits."

What waves in a double slit experiment is the strongly interactive dark matter.

There is evidence of the strongly interactive dark matter every time a double slit experiment is performed, it's what waves.

Aetherdisplacement (talk) 12:17, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

DAMA Reference
Reference 12 in "SIMPs annhilations would produce significant heat. DAMA set limits with NaITl crystals.[12]" doesn't seem to support this sentence but instead refers to heat flow in Uranus, which is covered in the next paragraph/sentence which is referenced by [13]. Do we need change the referencing? RJFJR (talk) 15:07, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I think so. I've moved ref 12 and flagged it. - Rod57 (talk) 14:41, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

Is this exactly the same as strongly interacting dark matter
Is this exactly the same as strongly interacting dark matter ? That's what most of the references talk about. Perhaps this article should be split or renamed or the relationship clarified ? - Rod57 (talk) 04:20, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Good catch, but I think the phrase you use was never particularly common because SIMP is more catchy and because SIDM is already an acronym for something else. And scientists have a sense of humor ... SIMP was already funny because it rhymes with WIMP, but now we have a whole new meaning coming into fashion. — Soap — 14:12, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

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