Talk:Strongyli Megistis

Stroggyli?
Hello, I don't know who moved this article, but I think that its name should be Strongyli Kastellorizou, not Stroggyli Kastellorizou. The Greek pronunciation of the double gamma in 'ng', not 'gg'. Please see Romanization of Greek. If you agree, I will move the article. Cheers, Alex2006 (talk) 06:55, 6 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Heh. Apparently this feat was done by one User:Alessandro57, back in 2007 ;-)


 * I agree "Strongyli" is better. WP:GREEK suggests we should stick to an ISO transliteration norm. BTW, currently Strongyli redirects to Santorini, without further explanation in that article. Perhaps we should have a disambiguation page like the one I did for Kara Ada? The US Geonames server conveniently provides the data. (Say what you will, with all those "flat islands", "round islands", "black islands", "donkey islands" and "rabbit islands", neither the Greeks nor the Turks can be accused of exaggerated inventiveness when it comes to naming islands...) Fut.Perf. ☼ 19:32, 6 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I can't believe it... :-((( I did not know that Alzheimer can already start before 50... :-) OK, now that I am (still) lucid, I will repair the mistake! About Strongyli, I agree, there are a lot of islands with these names. Opps, I was meaning "islets". As soon as we name these 'islands', suddenly comes someone which says that their political status is undefined... :-) The idea of disambiguation page is good! Cheers, Alex2006 (talk) 13:20, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

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Irrelevant name of island in other than Greek language.
The universal name of the island as stated in all naval and other official maps is that of a Greek name. In this English language article it is the Greek name in Latin writing. Any other name in any other language, or any other translation of the name in any other language is irrelevant and not only it does not contribute as information, but it misleads from the truthful name, as it implies that there is/are other official names of the island(s). In 2019 Greece had 21,8 million visitors from all around the world. Coming form various countries using many different languages, they could have written their own name or translation of the island in the article. I think that would confuse matters further more.

Regarding the name of island during Ottoman rule. This island or any other part of Greece was never Turkish. It was under the occupation of the Ottoman Empire 200 years ago. There is a major difference between modern Turkey and the Ottoman empire. To name a major one, Ottoman names and writing were not in Latin character but in Perso-Arabic script written from right to left. Throughout history many islands in the broader region, had been under foreign occupation from various occupants neighbour to Greece or not. To name a few countries only from the past 500 years without reference to antiquity: Russia, England, France, Spain, Italy. If there are all these languages present in articles regarding current names, again that would be misinformative and create more confusion for the public. If the Turkish name refers to a historical name recorded at some point in history then the historical sources and particularly the chronological date should be mentioned. Stating that the current name of the island is other than its official name, not only does it create confusion on the education of the public, but it provides an opening for conflict and further dispute on a region that has been clearly and officially defined with specific borders.

Please state your opinions on the matter of not removing foreign names of the island.Dikaion Nika (talk) 21:50, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Plase read Turkish_name? thread on Kos article. In short, the islet is clearly visible from the Anatolian coast, and the Turks know it by its Turkish name, so mentioning it in the article is an useful information to identify it. Bye Alex2006 (talk) 16:08, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

I agree there is no reason to include the Turkish name. It has nothing to do with Turkey and this should be removed. Use of the Turkish name is provocative only promotes irredentism against Greece. Sfrantzis (talk) 00:30, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

Why is the Turkish name for the island included in the article?
Strongyli is a Greek island and has nothing to do with Turkey.

There is no reason to include the Turkish name in the article. Sfrantzis (talk) 00:28, 20 September 2020 (UTC)


 * The reason is clearly stated in my comment above, that you apparently ignored. Alternative names of the island can be reported following this naming convention. I am aware of the current situation between Greece and Turkey, but this is not a good reason to remove arbitrarily useful information from the article. Alex2006 (talk) 11:20, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

Exactly. No reason for the Turkish name to be there.. Seriously what is the matter with people who do things like that? And then you call our reaction "current situation between Greece and Turkey" and you say that it's useful information?

Why don't you write in every Wikipedia article then what the Turks call every place of the planet.. that's very useful. Onoufrios d (talk) 10:58, 27 August 2022 (UTC)