Talk:Strudel

Credit for recipe
claims that a certain Connor van Groff was instrumental in creating Apfelstrudel. Given that written copies of the recipe apparently go back to at least the 17th Century, and that the pastry's origins seem to lie in an opposite direction, geographically, from where one would have expected to see chefs with Gaelic given names and Dutch last names cooking up modified baklava during the reign of Leopold I, I would question the source's accuracy, if the source even agrees with the cited fact in the first place. On the other hand, the Habsburgs did control the Netherlands at mid-millenium, so you never know... Can someone find a physical copy of this book? --Dynaflow  babble  00:05, 26 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I have the book, and this is plain vandalism. Someone created a hoax using a reference which was there before.~Warrington (talk) 16:55, 26 February 2009 (UTC)


 * The origin of the phyllo dough is related also with Burek. A serious source should mention it.

strudel in America is publicity for Pilsbury brand
The section telling about some product from Pilsbury named strudel is propaganda for that brand. This section should be eliminated.

May be a section named, Strudel variants may include the fact that in some places strudel is made with puff pastry, although it should not be called strudel as the result is very different from the authentic one.

I will not delete that section, until more people agree with me. I do not want to be accused of vandalism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.140.216.175 (talk) 17:57, 8 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes, it's advertising. I've removed it.Dominus Vobisdu (talk) 21:25, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Southern Brazil
... I can see why it would be popular in central Europe, but why out of all other places, southern Brazil?? » byeee 18:12, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I got a chuckle out of that. There are LOTS of German and Austrian immigrants living in Southern Brazil, Paraguay, Uraguay and Argentina. A lot of SS men and other fascist war criminals fled there after the war. I'm sure they get a hankering for strudel when they get homesick for the fatherland. See this article for more details: http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2491/whats-the-true-story-on-south-american-nazis Dominus Vobisdu (talk) 21:31, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Although it is true that dictatorial Sud-American regimes welcomed nazis. They did not bring strudel to the countries you mentioned. Other European migrants Italians,Jews, Russians, arrived before the II world war. The article you cited does not mention nothing about the strudel. The only culture that nazis gave to such countries was, as said in the article that you cited, the brutal repression against dissident citizens. Please do not even try to add such thing to the strudel article.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.178.6.166 (talk) 09:00, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

This entry about food should have a recipe
The recipe was deleted, with the argument that a recipe is not encyclopaedic. This is not a strong argument. This entry is about a meal, this information is part of what is expected to find in this kind of articles.

Please do not erase it again. It makes no more serious describing ambiguously in prose a strudel. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.140.209.183 (talk) 21:42, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
 * The purpose of the encyclopedia article is to describe the subject, not serve as some sort of cookbook. There are, well... cookbooks for that.  Kinaro (say hello)
 * You are right Kinaro, there are also books about algebra, biology, agriculture, and lots are free in wikibooks, let's eliminate the wikipedia for sake of search in the direct sources, the books. After all an encyclopaedia has nothing to do with the goal to collect all the knowledge in one source. Has it something to do with that?

(what's been done) 22:35, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Kinaro do you know the difference between an encyclopedia and a dictiornary?
 * If the main subject is a food, why should it not contain the recipe?
 * I am not a vandal, but the actual article contains a vague recipe in the text. Under your criteria, should this part be deleted as well?
 * There is no contradiction with the style in wikipedia. Do you have a reference in wikipedia being opposite to include a recipe in an article about food?
 * It makes no sense at all to exclude a recipe that complements the article.
 * It is not a good practice to delete without any discussion parts of an article. Your deletion is unjustified!

The strudel recipe is an important part of the subject, because it describes it in a very precise way.
 * Please undo your deletion, let people searching a full description, history and RECIPE find it in wikipedia, LET WIKIPEDIA BE SELF-CONTAINED, DO NOT PROMOTE LINKS TO COMMERCIAL EXTERNAL SITES.

Linen sheet
Please note: the "linen sheet" is a "tea towel". --MisterGugaruz (talk) 04:45, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

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Origins
There's only a single source given for the origins of the strudel and it doesn't seem super-reliable. There's no source for the claim about origins and at one point, German Wikipedia is cited, granted for an unrelated fact. Does anyone have any know of better source material regarding possible inspirations?

From my experience with being a food history nerd origins are often not quite 100% certain. Usually, origins boil down to qualified guesswork and scholarly theories that are not always in agreement with one another. Peter Isotalo 09:38, 28 May 2023 (UTC)