Talk:Studio 54/Archive 1

Registered Trademark?
There's a small club operating in Vienna with the Studio 54 name and logo... I'm sure it's not a franchise or anything... So... Is this name a registered trademark or what's going on? -newkai t-c 15:59, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Theatre/theater
Without going through all the arguments for/against English vs American, the article is a mix of spellings for theatre/er. For the sake of consistency, one or the other should be adopted. The company which owns Studio 54 calls itself the Roundabout Theatre Company, so perhaps that spelling should be favoured? Orbicle 12:25, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Cleanup
Most of this article is uncited and there's a fair amount of POV and peacock terms in the section on the club's heyday. Some parts seem to be repeated. Also, the list of patrons should be split into separate columns for legibility (assuming that we keep it). --GentlemanGhost 13:37, 16 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I've just alphabetised the lists of patrons and performers ... I'm with you, I don't know if it should even be in the article, but if it stays, it certainly needs some sources to prove these people attended this club! LookingYourBest 08:30, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Brooke Shields???
Something isn't right here. The article implies that Brooke Shields went to 54 in its early days, around 1977. problem is that would have made her 12 at the time. This needs to be checked for accuracy. I could see her going there in the early 80s after she turned 18, but 12? I don't even think 54 was THAT open-minded. 68.146.8.46 23:29, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

As ridiculous as this sounds (I laughed for several minutes at the thought of it), its true. In fact, she was 11. Robin Leach took her on opening night. Anthony Haden-Guest has an accounting of it in his book The Last Party. --MathewBrooks 18:59, 15 June 2007 (UTC)


 * From http://www.showbuzz.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/08/16/people/main3174194.shtml?source=RSSattr=Entertainment_3174194 - "But despite her often-provocative on-screen roles and her teen visits to Studio 54 ..." - a quick google search throws up a load of results on this ... seems like a pretty widely known fact tbh! LookingYourBest 10:48, 25 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Actuall, in the 70s and the early 80s is was not too uncommon for parents or older friends to take young kids with them to the discotheque. About nobody cared. Dunno when I was in a discotheque the first time (I must habe been 11 or 12, I think; Abba just had their hit Gimme! Gimme! Gimme!), and I didn't perceive it as something special...just like a visit in a pub, albeit with a bit more emphasis on loud music. --Klaws (talk) 15:42, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Studio54.jpg
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Drew Barrymore also???
A ten year old drew barrymore was frequenting the club in the "mid-eighties", I would like to see some evidence of that. Did they have a ball pitt for her and brooke shields. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.117.255.204 (talk) 21:00, 24 September 2007 (UTC)


 * From http://www.biography.com/search/article.do?id=9542167 - "Jaid began taking her daughter to night clubs, and it was at Studio 54 and the China Club where Barrymore developed a pre-teenage fondness for drugs and alcohol."
 * Happier now? LookingYourBest 10:43, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

she still isn't named in the article, but her wikipedia article gives two links for proof of that, when rob lowe celebrated his b-day there she got drunk for the first time at 9, also with 9 she started smoking, with 10 smoking weed and with 12 snorting cocaine, we should really mention that because actually no one at the club gave a shit about the little cutie from ET getting on those things.

Celebrities
I nuked this section as it seems pointless but I'm keeping here for history purposes.Americasroof (talk) 12:40, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Lead
I changed this back since there is already a Roundabout Theatre Company article. The title of the current venue is not Studio 54. This article is about the historic club, not about the organization currently occupying the building. --Strothra (talk) 14:23, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
 * The article has become a mish mash. The current name of the building is Studio 54.  It is a Broadway theatre which carries with it its own set of significant notability (and why it has a Broadway theatre template on it).  The Roundabout owns other theatres and so the subarticle is really about a organization and not a building.  I would prefer to state in the lead to note its current use and prominently mention its nightclub days per the practice on other articles.  We could break out the nightclub from the building but I don't think that's warrented.  Americasroof (talk) 15:47, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Right, I shouldn't have used the term "venue" above. Because 54 is now home to a Broadway theatre, I do think that both entities are notable. However, I think that the club's prominence merits that it should come first in the lead then followed by what it is today, a theatre. --Strothra (talk) 22:31, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

I changed it to Broadway theater. It doesn't seem to make a lot of sense to define something by what it was rather than what it currently is. Granted, its reputation is as a nightclub, but it's an operating theater and 60 years of its 80 year history is as a theater of some sort. However, it might make sense to fork Studio 54 (nightclub), as that seems to be a global enterprise, not necessarily confined to the current structure. &mdash; Music  Maker  5376  01:10, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Studio 54 in Singapore
The disco floor at Ministry of Sound is Singapore has the studio 54 logotype at the entrance. Franschised? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.132.3.6 (talk) 20:14, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Was the logo really pink?
We currently have a pink logo on the article. I don't recall an initial pink logo. I always recall white on black or silver on black. Americasroof (talk) 19:46, 20 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, looking back the image used to be image:Studio54.jpg up until this edit on the 3rd June 2008;
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Studio_54&direction=next&oldid=216550741
 * where the current logo was inserted. Unfortunately because this image wasn't used;


 * "02:31, 10 June 2008 East718 (Talk | contribs) deleted "Image:Studio54.jpg" ‎ (CSD I5: Non-free image that was not used for more than seven days)"
 * "02:31, 10 June 2008 East718 (Talk | contribs) deleted "Image:Studio54.jpg" ‎ (CSD I5: Non-free image that was not used for more than seven days)"


 * So we'll never know! Boooo
 * --LookingYourBest (talk) 20:42, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * If you do a google image search there are virtually no pink logos. There are also some gold logos.  In any even I bet Andy Warhol is spinning in his grave. Americasroof (talk) 20:54, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Brandsoftheworld which is the source of the logo used here has it as white on black. The 70s was not the pink decade.Americasroof (talk) 21:40, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Claim that Bill Clinton and Hillary Rodham Clinton met there.
The article claims that: "It is a little known fact that Bill Clinton and Hillary Rodham Clinton met outside the bathrooms in this era."

This is unreferenced and and goes against every other report that says they met in college. I assume that it is vandalism and I'm removing it. If someone has a source to cite and wants to put it back that would be fine. Hoping To Help (talk) 20:32, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Celebrity section deleted
This information was not sourced, and does not add encyclopedic information to this article. It would be impossible to list every notable client of this establishment, and without sources to establish notability, their mere (undocumented) presence would not seem to be relevant, other than providing context of "how cool the place was." I think the article is better off without this list. I have re-located it here, for further discussion.  O liver  T wisted (Talk) (Stuff) 20:31, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

A week after the opening, Halston asked Rubell to open the nightclub on May 2, 1977, a Monday evening when it would normally have been closed, to celebrate Bianca Jagger's 32nd birthday party. Bianca entered on a white horse and the resulting publicity firmly established Studio 54 as the preferred nightclub for celebrities, including: Michael Jackson, Yanique & Chantal, Rudolf Nureyev, Elton John, Truman Capote, Margaret Trudeau, John Travolta, Jackie Onassis, Elizabeth Taylor, Björn Borg, Gloria Swanson, Mae West, Farrah Fawcett, Telly Savalas, Salvador Dali, Olivia Newton-John, Cher, Muhammad Ali, Keith Richards, Lorna Luft, John Lennon and Yoko Ono, Divine, Rod Stewart, Alice Cooper, Suzanne Somers, Bette Davis, Al Pacino, Giorgio Moroder, Zsa Zsa and Eva Gabor, Bette Midler, Ann-Margret, Dolly Parton, Pelé, Hugh Hefner, Sophia Loren, Diane von Fürstenberg; Gloria Vanderbilt and her 10-year-old son, Anderson Cooper, John F. Kennedy Jr., Princess Grace and Prince Rainier of Monaco, Prince Albert, Eartha Kitt, Vladimir Horowitz, Rev. Sun Myung Moon, Moshe Dayan, Fred Astaire, Christie Brinkley, Grace Jones, Paul Stanley, Ace Frehley, Steven Tyler, Diana Ross, Barry Diller, Betty Ford, David Johansen, Arnold Schwarzenegger and Maria Shriver; and Lillian Carter, then-president Jimmy Carter's mother.

Some of the world's most famous performers also debuted their songs here: Donna Summer, Dr. Buzzard's Original Savannah Band, Grace Jones, Gloria Gaynor, Sylvester, The Village People, Cheryl Lynn, Brooklyn Dreams, James Brown, Chuck Berry, Phyllis Hyman, Amii Stewart, Chic, The Ritchie Family, Rick James, Stephanie Mills, Roberta Kelly, and Arthur Russell.

End of the First Era Accuracy Comments
I guess I'm surprised I've never looked at Studio's entry before because I was a regular during the final season of the first era (1979-80) and kept a diary/calendar. The final big party -- I was there -- was not the last night the club was open. The date of that party was not February 4, 1980 but Saturday/Sunday, February 2-3 (other Internet sources are incorrect as well, and regardless of what the evening was called on promotional materials most of us called it simply "The Jail Party"). Liza Minnelli is not cited among celebrities there, but she sang "Cabaret" that night after Diana Ross sang "The Boss," and then the two of them sang "God Bless the Child." February 4th was the date Rubell and Shrager began their prison terms at a penitentiary in Alabama.

Crowds dwindled rather quickly during that February and the club closed some weeks later (my last visit was Friday, March 7th). They first tried closing Sunday, Monday and Tuesday nights but it wasn't enough to justify staying open as weekend attendance dropped off as well. I recollect that Studio closed before that March was over but that's one thing I can't find documented easily.

As well, I think the sentence about cocaine and money being found in the walls is wrong in its timeline -- I believe that happened during the income tax evasion investigation that sent Rubell and Shrager to prison, not necessarily after the club closed.

I started to make some of these edits myself but not all of the above is really necessary for the article. At the very least the dates should be corrected for accuracy. Laughinfan (talk) 05:58, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Sirius XM "One Night Only"
Someone should probably add a section for the One Night Only party that Sirius XM threw featuring Nicky Siano and Leroy Washington spinning a three hour set of classic disco, followed by an Avicii set. One link pertaining to this follows. http://gothamist.com/2011/09/13/studio_54_is_coming_back_for_one_ni.php I would do it myself but I don't quite have the time. Anyone up for it?  lunis neko ( talk ) 05:30, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Studio 54 trademark ownership
According to the U.S. Patent and Trademark office online records it looks like Las Vegas based casino/hotel operator MGM Resorts International now owns and controls the Studio 54 trademark. Shouldn't this now be mention in the article since the previous ownership of the trademark is included? I direct you to here, here, here, here, here, here and here which all indicate ownership by MGM Resorts International with link number 7 showing a transfer of the trademark from Cabaret Royale Corporation a Texas corporation to MGM Resorts International. I'd appreciate hearing some input on this subject. TheGoofyGolfer (talk) 17:08, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

2012 Hijacking of article
An anonymous user has a history of hijacking this page (please see edit summaries going back to 2009), and attempting to remove all information not about the Studio 54 nightclub itself (CBS, Roundabout Theatre), as well as trying to add non sourced gossip about the club, and persons who have not had their notability demonstrated. Although having been banned at least six times that I can remember, this sock puppet user and  always returns to insert the same gossip. This information has been deemed "non encyclopedic", unverified and not notable in all official discussions. Before deleting any information about CBS or the Roundabout Theatre, please discuss proposed changes on the talk page.  O liver  T wisted (Talk) (Stuff) 20:30, 25 May 2012 (UTC)