Talk:Stunts (video game)

ultimate stunts
The remake hardly seems to work, should that be noted in the text?

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Is there any evidence of notability for this game at all? Mdwh (talk) 14:25, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

-- Not sure of evidence, but it is one of the best games ever. Way ahead of its time. There are a bunch of fan pages, but they don't provide statistics. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.16.54.58 (talk) 00:43, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

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Why Ultimate Stunts wiki page redirects to original Stunts page ? It's useless to link to the wiki page of Ultimate Stunts in this case, so I added the link to Ultimate Stunts SourceForge website. KrysToffStunts (talk) 14:07, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Anonymous comment
There's also a 1977 movie by the same name. Someone create a page for that, too. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.48.153.76 (talk • contribs) 16 July 2006

Hidden cars
I have different versions of Stunts/4D Sports Driving game for PC (Stunts 1.0, Stunts 1.1 and 4D Driving 1.1) and there's not these hidden cars mentionned in the article. Therefore I added the request for reference needed. These hidden cars are also not present in Amiga, PC-9801 nor FM-Towns version I also possess. Therefore, I think these are modified cars made by a fan by tuning the original cars but are not original hidden cars. KrysToffStunts —Preceding comment was added at 07:58, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Critical speed?
"Also, with certain of the fastest cars in the game, it was possible to gain a certain high enough "critical speed", which caused the vehicle to "take off" after a long jump or after merely touching a small cliff. If that happened, the player lost control completely, the car could "fly" several meters above the ground and crash randomly. This behavior could be consistently recreated with the right car and track layout."

Wouldn't it be more correct to state that the speed of the car will never drop below the critical speed once the critical speed has been reached -- given that the player doesn't release the throttle? Also I have never experienced continuous problems with the car flying above the ground for no reason, this seems to happen randomly but very rarely (at least with the fastest car -- the IndyCar), the car will bounce up and down a few times then sometimes fly higher and crash. As far as I know several design tracks to exploit the critical speed bug (including myself) to be able to drive at maximum speed constantly; these could be considered by some experienced players to be the most fun and challenging tracks as they are _fast_. The most easy way I know of to reach critical speed with the IndyCar is to ride a loop -- drive through a loop repeatedly a few times (a little tricky but easy with practice -- another bug?) until the critical speed is reached, then escape the loop. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Corge (talk • contribs)

Freeware?
Hello. Can we get a better reference to establish that this game is, in fact, freeware? The provided reference seems to be drawing the conclusion that, just because it isn't available in stores, the game must be freeware. Except, that isn't the meaning of 'freeware'. Is there a better reference? Bladestorm 04:44, 21 June 2007 (UTC) The website's owner says he got special permission to host the files 70.20.34.218 04:13, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Ferrari GTO not in Stunts 1.0
The article states that the Ferrari GTO car is not available in Stunts 1.0. However in my version (Stunts 1.0 Oct 05 1990) it is. I'm removing the note. My version is the one from Abandonia. --Ysangkok 21:52, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Stunts jump.png
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BetacommandBot (talk) 06:23, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Removed commentary on paths from "bugs and glitches"
Removed paragraph:

''Since the user is free to design his or her own tracks, some of them can be very long or contain multiple paths to the finish line without a clear indication of which paths are considered valid by the game. In such cases, the game may incorrectly identify the "main" path and either accept alternative paths to the finish line as legal or assign a time penalty to seemingly valid paths.[citation needed]''

While the pathfinding engine of Stunts is indeed quite simple and runs into some very visible oversights at times, it does not (save for a few well-known bugs such as the way-switching bug mentioned on that section) gets "confused" or violates its own primitive rules arbitrarily. Thus, I removed the generic statement above. --Duplode (talk) 06:03, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Removal of notability tag
Stunts was ported to three different platforms and marketed in USA, Europe and Japan with the involvement of notable companies such as Broderbund and Electronic Arts. That alone should be enough to assert notability, and the relevant proposed guideline appears to agree. The actual issue here, adequate reliable sourcing, is already addressed by the other tag; having the notability one as well is overkill. Thus, I removed it.--Duplode (talk) 01:52, 8 August 2008 (UTC)