Talk:Stuyvesant Apartments

Odd layout and lousy ref
Sorry about the strange layout. It's a start.

I will try to dig up good refs. There is no google where I am, so no access to google books, which would be best. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 07:58, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

The name
To Epicgenius et al.:

I just removed:


 * "The apartments are named after Rutherford Stuyvesant. His mother was a descendant of Peter Stuyvesant, the last Dutch Director-General of the colony of New Netherland (eventually renamed New York). A descendant of Peter Stuyvesant was Peter Gerard Stuyvesant. He died in 1847. He had no children. He willed his fortune to Rutherford Stuyvesant who was 5 years old at the time on the condition that he took the last name Stuyvesant."

I think it may be baloney. The dates don't make sense. Because I can't access google anything, I'm wondering if someone could dig something up that helps figure out why it is named what it is named.

Many thanks for any help you can offer.

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 17:10, 13 February 2015 (UTC)


 * According to this source, it was built for Rutherford. It kind of makes sense. I'll find more info on this. Epic Genius (talk) 17:24, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
 * That Rutherford was the developer is pretty certain. I'm wondering how he is related to the other Stuyvesants, which is probably is. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 17:26, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
 * According to the article on Peter Stuyvesant: Rutherford Stuyvesant, the 19th century New York developer, and his descendants are also descended from Pieter Stuyvesant, however Rutherford Stuyvesant's name was changed from Stuyvesant Rutherford in 1863 to satisfy the terms of a will. They may probably be ancestor/descendant. Epic Genius (talk) 17:36, 13 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Here's a better reference, a 1902 article from the Times: "Rutherford Stuyvesant Married in London" The New York Times (June 17, 1902). Quote: "Mr. Stuyvesant's name originally was Rutherford, a buit a condition of the will of a relative, who died childless, required that he take the name Stuyvesant in order to inherit. He therefore reversed his names, and, instead of Stuyvesant Rutherford, became Rutherford Stuyvesant." @Epicgenius: The information should never have been removed from the article.  The "Constructed Envirnment" reference was actually a reprint of an article from the Times by Christopher Gray, who's been writing their "Streetscapes" articles for decades now.  He's an authority, and quite sufficient for the info to have stayed in the article.  Please be more careful in making judgements that affect the information we present to our readers. BMK (talk) 08:44, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

Bedroom photo
The painting in the photo (taken 1934) is signed Edmund Greacen (1876–1949). He lived in New York at that time. There are brushes and paints in the photo too. Do you think he lived in the Stuyvesant Apartments? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 17:36, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Could be. The painting is "Seated Ballerina", you can see it in color here. No additional info on it, though. BMK (talk) 04:50, 14 February 2015 (UTC)