Talk:Su Excelencia

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BetacommandBot (talk) 06:35, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

THIS MOVIE WAS ALMOST PROPHETIC!
This stub fails to expose the tremendous coincidences with real world geopolitics; the film was prophetic many years before Mexico's ambassador at the United Nations repeated many actions depicted in the film; Mexico's role at the Security Council in February 2002 (ambassador Adolfo Aguilar Zinser) is exactly the same as in the film: a poor, Third World country has to give the final vote in a final decision to approve or veto a war.

In the movie, Ambassador Lopitos (Cantinflas), is courted by both the Imperialist country (The "green ones") and the Communist country (The "red ones")... this represents the conflict between the USA together with their puppet allies, against the rest of the world; in respect to the war and the inminent invasion of Irak.

COINCIDENCES:


 * 1966 "Su Excelencia" Film:
 * Poor country "Republica de los Cocos"


 * 2002 Real World:
 * Mexico


 * 1966 movie:
 * Money (capitalism) country "Dolaronia" pushing for world dominance.


 * 2002 Real World:
 * USA and puppet allies pushing U.N. to approve Irak invasion.


 * 1966 movie:
 * Left leaning (communism) country "Pepeslavia".


 * 2002 Reality:
 * Rest of the World.


 * 1966 movie Ambasador: "Lopitos" (Cantinflas)
 * 2002 U.N. Security Council presidency: mexican Ambassador Aguilar Zinser.


 * 1966 movie: Summit of world leaders.
 * 2002 Reality: Security Council of UN

In the film, some African countries decline vetoing war or voting against the Money driven "Dolaronia"(USA), fearing cuts in Economic help funds.

In the Real World, the two previous U.N. Security Council presidency were two AFRICAN countries (Mali and Mauritius)also decided not to vote against war, fearing economic punishment from USA and its puppet allies.

Close to the end of the movie, ambassador Lopitos resigns, seeing that the conflict will not be peacefully resolved.

In the Real World, the vote of ambassador Aguilar Zinser is not sufficient to overcome the pressures of the Pro-american bloc and the Irak invasion goes on easily.

After the facts, the movie, even considering it as a commedy, was tremendously prophetic and "real" in a sense. The main actor "Cantinflas" and the writer of the script too were dead many years before the actual historic events happened and the Irak war decisions were taken. amclaussen. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.100.180.20 (talk) 22:49, 21 June 2010 (UTC)


 * In reality, Mexico's first prominent defiance of the United States on non-bilateral non-Latin-American matters in the post-WW2 era was voting for UNGA 3379, which didn't turn out too well for Mexico... AnonMoos (talk) 05:00, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the proposal was no move. Cúchullain t/ c 13:26, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Su Excelencia → Su excelencia – The film is originally spelled "Su excelencia" as is custom with Mexican films using Spanish grammar standards for their titles. V. Villalvaso 02:57, 8 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Would tend to oppose -- English capitalization conventions would requite capitalization. In any case, the matter will be determined by WP:MOS, or a sub-page linked to it. AnonMoos (talk) 05:00, 8 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Oppose - Per WP:NC-FILM, "Each word in a film title takes an initial capital ...". I do not see evidence that it was released in English, so no need to use the English translation.--MrBoire (talk) 14:05, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment: The naming conventions recommend using the form found in most English-language reliable sources. Jafeluv (talk) 08:44, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.