Talk:Sublime (band)

BALL AND CHAIN
WHY IS THERE NO MENTION OF THE SINGLE "BALL AND CHAIN"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.37.182.196 (talk) 22:11, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Reunion
I deleted the part about the reunion, the cited source ad nothing to back it up, plus all the replacements for Nowell it listed were pure speculation on the site's part. I'd wait until an official announcement came through from Gaugh, Wilson, or MCA before adding it to the article 71.238.28.108 (talk) 18:00, 7 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree. It would be a good idea to wait until something happens. I can 95% agree that this is all spectulation and doubt that the reunion rumors are true. Alex (talk) 21:05, 7 December 2008 (UTC)


 * it keeps popping up, I'll keep an eye on it, but more than likely it's all rumor and doesn't belong here71.238.28.108 (talk) 08:01, 11 December 2008 (UTC)


 * My thoughts exactly. I have the Sublime page on my watchlist, so I'll keep track of who keeps adding the reunion rumors too. Alex (talk) 15:49, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Get them over the England! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vixdeth (talk • contribs) 22:14, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

sublime is never reuniting its impossible BRADLEY NOWELL was the heart and soul of sublime you can never replace him just because they have a new lead singer means nothing they shouldnt even call themselves sublime i think its disrespectful to bradley's memory RIP Bradley your missed unimaginably! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.177.21.91 (talk) 09:34, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

former members
yo momma "Although many reggae purists refuse to accept Sublime as an integral part of reggae history, Sublime has undoubtedly played a large part in the re-emergence of reggae in mainstream music, as they were perhaps the most widespread and prolific reggae-incorporating act since Bob Marley."

I don't know how it needs to be fixed as I'm not sure about the original author's intention, but that Although at the beginning of the sentence is missing a counterweight on the other end of the sentence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.86.106.46 (talk) 04:55, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

ska=punk?
Sublime is constantly classified as a ska-punk band but I get the impression that this is because Southern California was chockfull of such bands at the time. If forced to define Sublime, they are much closer to reggae - the ubiquitous one drop drum beat, the rhythm strokes on the 2 and the 4, the deep basslines, etc. Would anyone object if I changed the label? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stylee (talk • contribs) 03:35, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Ska punk does not belong in Sublime's genres, since all of or almost all of their music has absolutely no punk characteristics or influences. They're barely even ska, but I can see them being labeled as ska. Their genres are more like reggae, hip hop, and ska. I'm gonna add hip hop and reggae for right now. If I need to later I'll bring in a source. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.220.254.182 (talk) 05:23, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

The majority of Sublime's output has been a mixture of reggae with various other styles. It can best be described by the genre reggae fusion. There is a Bradley Nowell quote here on the genres that were played by Sublime: http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Bradley_Nowell —Preceding unsigned comment added by Theeonlyjbk (talk • contribs) 00:53, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

I'm about to restore ska punk as one of their genres in the infobox following a recent removal by another editor. Though I can see this debate going either way, they are referenced as ska punk in the first sentence of the lead, and ska punk links to Sublime. Many of their biggest hits (Date Rape, Wrong Way) are heavily influenced by this genre, as are significant tracks such as "Total Hate '95" and others. Other songs are also of a surf punk style, and their association with No Doubt and other punk contemporaries places them squarely within this sphere, imho... Boogerpatrol (talk) 13:18, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

skankable?
In the section entitled "Legacy," Sublime's music is described as "skankable." Clever and evocative though it may be, I am not sure I know exactly what the word means. Not having even appeared yet on Urban Dictionary, this word may be too obscure for Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.74.222.145 (talk) 04:14, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Skanking is type of dance. [] 171.71.36.250 (talk) 19:40, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Link to Badfish (band)

 * Where could we put this? It has a "no links to this article" tag, and it's the best-known Sublime tribute band in existance. TheDavesr 15:44, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

ok skankable means you could skank to it. skanking is a type of dance people do to ska. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.23.218.28 (talk) 15:47, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Sublime album
Shouldn't an album that is certified 5x multi-platinum (5x2 million) be called a 'Diamond' album (10 million)?? Msjayhawk (talk) 02:47, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Tried to fix
Sorry, I tried to fix this paragraph, but it was just too poorly written (spelling mistakes, an unprofessional writing style, and information that isn't exactly important imo) so I deleted it:

"Their eclectic style of...everything which changes from one moment of melodic grooves to an eruption of distorted madness. Some beleive the bands style can be best perceived through the song Get Out! remixed on their posthemus release of Second Hand Smoke (originally on the first releases of 40 oz. to Freedom."

pictures.
are needed. for shame. Lockeownzj00 21:58, 23 Feb 2005 (UTC)

This is the best I can do:
Some believe the band's style can be best perceived through the song Get Out!, which was remixed on their postumous release of Second Hand Smoke. Get Out! was originally going to be on 40 oz. to Freedom, but when MCA picked there back cd's up for reissue it was cut due to a Led Zepplein sample. That sample is not in the remix.

robbin' the hood was a major label release?
hmm, i'm pretty sure that it was only reissued by MCA and originally released on Skunk. hmm, allmusic.com seems to back me up on that.

SUBLIME IS AWESOME!!!

Headline text
Many have tryed to copy SUBLIME, but no one can capture the feeling

...listen to Pepper if you want a great band that has similar sound to Sublime

Pepper is a decent band, but comes no where near the variety of musical styles Sublime incorporated.

Hip Hop
I've added Hip-Hop to their list of genres, since they were influenced a lot by it and this shows alot in many of their songs. - User:Tricklin

and why is only there rock infulances listed????

_kid_

no woman no cry
why arent there details on the sublime cover of no woman no cry?

that was actually by a band called Murder One. it's commonly mislisted online.

why is "badfish" redirected to "sublime"?
?


 * There's a popular Sublime song called "Badfish". &#x2014;alxndr&#x00a0; (t) 16:34, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

its my favorate song dude

Why "Sublime and the College Crowd"?
Is it just me or is the section entitled "Sublime and the College Crowd" rather asinine? I believe someone should remove it, but I won't do it unilaterally. TuckerResearch 17:02, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Smoke Two Joints
"Smoke Two Joints" should not be under the section of songs by Sublime that were covered by other artists, since it is originally a Bob Marley song, as indicated by the list of songs which Sublime covered (confusing enough for you?). Removed. BTW, the two "songs covered" sections seen kinda pointless and confusing too me. Do they really warrant inclusion?

It was a Toyes song. Bob Marley never did it.

Could someone please identify the style
Could someone identify the style of singing that the guy does at the beginning of Caress Me Down? The word I saw in one of the articles was "gruff vocals" but I figure there must be a more precise term. Thanks! Avast matey! 05:29, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
 * That could be called 'dancehall'.

Possible Copyvio Issues
It looks like the second and third paragraphs of the History section are almost verbatim copies from the AllMusicGuide page for Sublime. I'll blank them for now and let people more knowledgeable with the page address as they see fit.Cool moe dee 345 14:34, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Okay - scratch that. The section just looks ridiculous if I blank it, so I'll leave it this way for the time being with the justification that having something that makes even a little bit of sense is a virtue worth waiting for somebody to fix the issues. I'll check back in a couple of days to see if the problems have been resolved.Cool moe dee 345 14:36, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, it's been a while and there's been no movement by anybody more knowledgeable about the group, so I went ahead and just stripped out the worst of the material (word for word copy from AMG, and you can clearly see the copyright notice at the bottom of the screen if you visit the site, even if it wasn't plagarism). If somebody wants to rewrite what I removed and reference AMG, I expect that would be fine. The page in question, assuming that this link works, is at the AllMusicGuide Website on the band.Cool moe dee 345 13:08, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Long Beach Dub Allstars
Didn't LBDA break up a coupl of years ago?

Members
I'm pretty sure that a dog shouldnt be included in the members list.

Well... The first sound on the first track of their first album is donated by Lou...

don't be a douche, the band considered the dog an honorary member and its in all of their videos and sometimes barks in their songs, just let it go —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.97.185.35 (talk) 02:06, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

what the hell?? he was considered a member even Brad said so, so i think that Lou should be classed as a member —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.96.254.143 (talk) 14:58, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

how about the live members such as Todd Forman and Marshall Goodman who also wrote and recorded with them? Forman is even playing with the new "Rome" version of the band also. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.45.6.201 (talk) 19:29, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

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LOU DOG IS TOTALLY PART OF THE BAND
LOU DOG IS IN SO MANY SUBLIME SONGS HE IS DEFFINITELY A MEMBER OF SUBLIME!71.185.99.136 18:34, 1 December 2007 (UTC)RYAN FOSTER 14
 * Haha. in a way you're right....he performed on stage with brad bud and eric....any other opinions? I agree. Add the dog to list of members. —Preceding unsigned comment added by M4390116 (talk • contribs) 01:31, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * No, no he's not. A mascot wouldn't be part of the band, which is what he essentially was. If there's any video of him playing an instrument or contributing aside from the occasional bark, than by all means include it.Tithonfury (talk) 21:33, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Lou is totally part of the band but if your gunna name him you gotta do it right it's King Louie Nowell after bradleys grandfather. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.177.21.91 (talk) 09:43, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

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messed up link on rewind selector
if you search rewind selector, it redirects to sublime page. if you then click "list of sublime bootlegs", rewind selector is only showed as a link and it doesn't list songs. the link directs back to the sublime page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by M4390116 (talk • contribs) 08:35, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Member names
I guess the order of the members' name under the picture is incorrect. Now it's "Brad Nowell, Bud Gaugh, and Eric Wilson.". It should be "Bud Gaugh, Brad Nowell and Eric Wilson.". —Preceding unsigned comment added by ATIHUN (talk • contribs) 10:45, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

The Best of Sublime (2008)
"Green Series", http://www.mtv.com/music/artist/sublime/albums.jhtml?albumId=2275305 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Noroom (talk • contribs) 22:54, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Alive in woods in Canada???
Someone said Brad Nowell is alive in Canada, this must be vandalism... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.155.102.233 (talk) 22:16, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Slipknot???
Was Cory Taylor in sublime?? At all? This kid at work is trying to argue with me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Riseabovethis (talk • contribs) 01:50, 21 October 2008 (UTC)


 * No. Google is your friend. Tithonfury (talk) 21:34, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Is the Reunion a Hoax?
It would be hard to believe Bud Gaugh, Eric Wilson, and a new singer would perform as a reunion of Sublime. Bud Gaugh and Eric Wilson said that Sublime had died with Brad. It would be more likely that they would reunite under Long Beach Dub Allstars or another name. This sounds more like a publicity stunt from The Bamboozle. There is a slight possibility for a reunion under of Sublime, but I don't think this rumor should be taken seriously until more evidence is available. I would recommend that this topic be deleated from Sublime's Wikipedia page. Any objections? Integrals97 (talk) 02:21, 21 November 2008 (UTC)


 * That's what I thought. I can honestly tell that the rumors of Sublime reuniting are about 95% fake. Brad was one of the members responsible for forming this band, and has been one of the members of Sublime as important as Bud and Eric. Maybe we should just remove the whole reunion section, until we find out whether or not there's actual proof about reuniting with a new singer as Sublime, or that it's just fake. Alex (talk) 03:28, 21 November 2008 (UTC)


 * If you don't mind, Alex, I had to restore the reunion section after I read this article on Distortedmagazine.com about Sublime getting a new singer. 71.130.209.255 (talk) 21:58, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Rome
Are there any reliable sources around that confirm Sublime is reuniting with this new singer/that Nowell has been replaced? Because all the refs used (some of which are very weak - a forum? Myspace?) only confirm that there is speculation and that one show was performed. I mean, one show? That, combined with the dubious refs, does not establish this enough for Wiki purposes or nearly enough to go listing Rome officially as the new singer. It looks to me that speculation/rumor is being treated as fact here, especially considering that an actual reunion with a permanent new singer (as opposed to a one-off performance with a guest singer, which is what it looks like to me) would drum up a great deal of news items from mags like Rolling Stone or Spin and I'm not seeing anything at all. I'll change it if no one comes up with anything.  Mbinebri  talk &larr; 03:15, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, it's been a week and no one has said anything, if this was even seen, so I removed any assertion that Rome is officially the new singer/guitarist. Reputable sources or perhaps an official announcement on Sublimes MySpace (not any other band) is needed if anyone wants to change this back because, until then, it hasn't been established enough for Wiki purposes.    Mbinebri'   talk &larr; 15:23, 9 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Yet again, I'll comment on this since it seems one editor is on a crusade to keep Rome listed as the new singer despite my explanations and how many editors/IPs seem to keep changing it back. If Rome is the new lead singer, definitive media coverage reporting this as fact is needed.  Not MySpace refs and an MTV article that only reports on the confusion regarding this.  If Rome is the new lead singer, refs from reputable sources would be everywhere.  If he's just some dude who jammed with what's left of the band in a barroom, no major mags would write articles on Sublime's supposed reunion, and it seems this is the case.  For what there is to establish, these claims are only noteworthy enough for a section further down in the article, which is what the article has.    Mbinebri   talk &larr; 16:26, 18 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Del Mar, the drummer's new side project, confirmed in this blog that Sublime did reunite and called Rome the new singer. I one time did send a message to Del Mar on Mypsace asking if it was true that Sublime was reuniting with a new singer and they said yes and they said that Rome is or was indeed their new singer. Alex (talk) 03:16, 20 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Third Opinion, per request. This situation is covered by our policy regarding reliable sources, as well as those governing articles about living people. In short though, Myspace.com and blogs are NOT considered Reliable Sources for any factual information at all. They may only be used to quote the opinions of an author, never facts. This is because, unlike a professional journal or newspaper article, blogs are not subject to any fact-checking or editorial oversight to insure accurate content. Therefore, information about living people and group members must be excluded until a more reliable source can be found. Typically a band's "official" website would be considered RS for info about the group's lineup. Doc  Tropics  19:22, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Rome can't be listed as original Sublime —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.75.4.195 (talk) 04:40, 11 September 2009 (UTC)


 * It doesn't matter who can or can't be listed as a member of the same band. Pennywise is also getting a new singer, but does that mean he can't be listed as a member of that band? Alex (talk) 20:33, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Sure it does, Sublime is one band, Sublime with/and Rome is another band. Make a new wiki page for that doucher Rome. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.75.4.195 (talk) 20:47, 11 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Sublime has reunited with a new singer and that's Rome, are you trying to say that you didn't notice that? Just because Brad started this band or the band won't be the same without him or whatever doesn't mean you have the right to remove Rome from the current members section. If you remove him one more time, I will report this to an adminstrator. Alex (talk) 20:56, 11 September 2009 (UTC)


 * 76.75.4.195 has been blocked for 12 hours. Dreadstar  ☥  05:28, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

This section should be rewritten. Bud/Eric, members of Sublime, have reunited and would like to use the name Sublime. However, legally they are not allowed to do so, as Bradley Nowell has the rights to it. Article at MTV refers to the legal issue minus the details: http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1620567/20090901/sublime.jhtml Until that is resolved I believe the references to Rome being a member of the band should be removed. It is these legal issues that is preventing an official statement from the "Band" under either their label or from their official Management in stating the band has reunited. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Joebl (talk • contribs) 23:26, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Agree on this. Technically there were not Sublime although in heart they felt they were. I think the court has the final say on this. Should be rewritten to include all info. Cablespy (talk) 16:47, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Dub
- There's no citation for the claim that they are predominantly influenced by dub. I certainly haven't heard any such influence on any of their tracks up on youtube. I think this claim should go.


 * ✅ Note, however, that the removal was due to the claim being uncited and using weasel words, not as a result of your opinion of the youtube videos. ∙  AJCham  (talk) 21:36, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

The Dub is not the most dominant in their music. It is Dub influenced though. Many Sublime dubs were released after Bradley died. Some of their songs started out as dubs. One of their biggest hits, "Santeria", started out as "Lincoln Highway Dub". —Preceding unsigned comment added by Theeonlyjbk (talk • contribs) 01:20, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Sublime /w Rome
Aren't they calling this current Incarnation Sublime /w Rome and not Sublime? If these cats are going to be respectable about it shouldn't Wikipedia?70.15.191.119 (talk) 03:12, 1 October 2009 (UTC)Frogg sept 30, 2009 11:11 pm70.15.191.119 (talk) 03:12, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Response to trademark suit
"Representatives of Wilson, Gaugh, and Ramirez have not yet responded to Billboard's request for comment." Uh, yeah they did, read it here it is:

Gaugh and Wilson statements:

“On behalf of the band Sublime, founding members Bud Gaugh and Eric Wilson are thrilled by the opportunity to reconnect with their fans around the world. While we all mourn the passing of our brother and bandmate Bradley Nowell some thirteen years ago, Sublime still has a strong message of hope and love to share — a message that is especially important in these difficult times.

Brad’s heirs apparently do not share this vision and do not want the band Sublime to continue and tried — unsuccessfully — to file a temporary restraining order to prevent the band from carrying on. Despite those objections, we are pleased that the United States District Court has allowed us to perform as Sublime for all of our fans.

We urge everyone to join us in our message of peace and love, and we look forward to sharing the music we created — the music that defines us.

- Sublime”

“It’s unfortunate that The Estate would take a position against us. Eric, Brad and I started this band when we were kids. We were the ones that spent years paying dues playing hole-in-the-wall clubs. We were the ones lugging around our gear in a broken down van. We were the ones that spent years writing, recording and rehearsing. WE. Not anyone else. Sublime is a band — our band.

Eric, Brad and I always agreed that no one should ever be allowed to tell artists what they can and cannot do with their art. It’s a matter of artistic integrity.

We were devastated when we lost Brad and there’s not a day that goes by that Eric and I don’t think about him and miss him. When we got together and started jamming with Rome, we realized that embracing the music will be a huge step toward healing and moving forward. We see this as a celebration of Brad’s memory and the music we all made together. And the fans are on board – they’ve started a Facebook page called “We Want Sublime” and its numbers are growing daily. Sublime’s music has always been about love and we hope The Estate joins us and the fans that support us in celebrating Brad’s life and our music.

Come celebrate with us.

Much love, Bud Gaugh”

From http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2009/10/23/brad-nowells-estate-threatens-legal-action-against-sublime-reunion/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.189.90.68 (talk) 23:51, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Rome Ramirez being listed as a "former member".
Why is Rome Ramirez listed as a member of Sublime, either as active or former? With the recent ruling that Bud and Eric may not perform as "Sublime", it appears to me that Sublime has been officially disbanded since Bradley's passing in 1996, therefore Rome has/had never been an official member of "Sublime". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.22.130.128 (talk) 08:41, 6 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes, Rome is/was a member of Sublime. Just read this part of the article. Alex (talk) 16:16, 6 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I disagree strongly, and am tired of Alex 101 and me debating this. If the case settled in favor of the Nowell family, then Sublime w/ Rome technically never existed. I'd like some support to remove Rome being listed as a former member and help un-protecting  Sublime's page. I'm new to Wikipedia and I do not plan on backing down from this. So if someone would be kind enough to help me out with this matter I'd be very grateful. I feel that putting Rome in the former member section is an insult to Sublime's and Bradley Nowell's memory. I do support Bud, Eric, and even this new Rome guy playing together, but I don't support the use of the name Sublime.

So if anyone agrees with me, please help me out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by HalibutErixon (talk • contribs) 06:36, 12 November 2009 (UTC)


 * If Rome was part of their reunion this year, then that means he was an official member and that means you shouldn't remove him. If you keep this up, I will contact an administrator and have him or her ban you from Wikipedia. Alex (talk) 15:55, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

sublime is awesome we all miss u bradley and lou dog rip god bless u both you are an insperation to me and millons of peolpe we love rest in peace 1968-1996 Sublime did not officially have a reunion and the legal judgement backed that up. I think it is ok to have an area on the main page of a FAILED attempt to reunite the band under the name Sublime with Rome as a new singer. But in the former members section, it is ridiculous to include Rome as a former member. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.176.202.15 (talk) 18:49, 17 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes, they did officially have a reunion. The Smokeout performance last month was a reunion and it was Sublime. Alex (talk) 18:57, 17 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Alex, you are incorrect. The legal ruling validated that they were not Sublime when they performed, regardless of what name they performed under. You and I could form a band and call ourselves ACDC for a show, but that does not make us that band because we have no legal right to the name.  Keep a paragraph in there that says Bud/Eric tried to reunite as sublime, and performed a show with Rome, but that it was legally ruled that it was not Sublime.  It is wrong and inaccurate to keep Rome listed under former member of the band. What is your justification for doing so?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.176.202.15 (talk) 20:44, 17 November 2009 (UTC)


 * And you, 208.176.202.15, are not undserstanding what I'm saying. If Rome did perform that last month's Smokeout show with Bud and Eric as Sublime, then it's still Sublime, just a new incarnation. Bands like AC/DC, Alice in Chains, Queen, INXS, Blind Melon and Snot all did the same thing, reform the band and get a replacement for a dead singer. If Krist Novoselic and Dave Grohl were to reform Nirvana with a replacement for Kurt Cobain, would you say it's not Nirvana and remove Kurt's replacement as well? You should know by now that there's nothing wrong with listing Rome as current or former member of the band and now that the page is unprotected, you still can't get rid of him. Rome is and was part of Sublime, ha ha! Alex (talk) 23:03, 17 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Alex, once again you are incorrect. The bands you mentioned are not in the same predicament as Sublime. Brad Nowell "owns" Sublime group - it was not an equal partnership between the 3.  Hypothetically if Brad was alive and the group split up, only Brad could legally form a new band called Sublime.  Your examples above are not in the same situation. If you want to look at a band in similar situation, you can look at Guns n Roses.  Axl "owns" the band GNR and only he could reform it.  Slash could not legally form the band GNR without Axl Rose's permission. This is the crux of the legal case - who can be called Sublime, and that belongs to the estate of Brad Nowell, not Bud and Eric.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.176.202.15 (talk) 17:52, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Alex you are incredibly ignorant and naive. The examples you used are completely different than the situation with sublime. —Preceding unsigned comment added by HalibutErixon (talk • contribs) 21:30, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

It is apparent from the court documents that the lineup with Rome Ramirez had NO RIGHT to call themselves and perform as Sublime. Thus he is not officially a member. I think that, except for User:Alex 101 that this is apparent. TuckerResearch (talk) 02:34, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

I pasted a note at the Content noticeboard: Content_noticeboard. TuckerResearch (talk) 02:55, 17 December 2009 (UTC) sublime is awesome we all miss you Bradley you`re the best hope you lived a wonderful life i wish that i could have gone to one of your concerts so does my friend lui but rest in peace yu will always be in our hearts R.I.P Bradley James Nowell 1968-1996 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.111.216.60 (talk) 05:32, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Any suggestions?
Since this is a page about the band I think we should help them come up with a new name so they can go back to preforming their great music for the world to hear once more.jack (talk) 19:23, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Sorry this is not a forum for discussing issues above Cablespy (talk) 16:26, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

1988 or 1986?
The article has two sets of dates for the band's formation, 1986 and 1988. Which is correct? TuckerResearch (talk) 08:23, 24 May 2010 (UTC)


 * According to Brad's page, he and Bud met each other in 1988, so 1988 is correct and more accurate. Alex (talk) 14:26, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

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Fix needed for Bud Gaugh comment
This line in the intro seems to be predicting the future:

"Although the rumor is that Bud is just taking a "break" from Sublime with Rome, in actuality he will never return to the band, although he is open to doing another project and even playing Sublime music again with Eric Wilson. Sources-one of Bud's website's. budztv.com."

I can't find on the website where he claims he is never coming back. And even if he said it, it should just say that he stated he would never come back, not saying in the article that he will never return to Sublime with Rome. Then the source is improperly written into the article. Maybe this just needs total removal? 74.193.16.96 (talk) 05:58, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

"Peninsula Riot" apocryphal
I've been unable to find any independent mention of such a riot. It doesn't seem to have existed outside of Sublime lore. Delete?Tevildoii (talk) 06:02, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Their deal with Surfdog Records
Should their deal with Surfdog Records be mentioned somewhere? -- Joseph Prasad (talk) 01:40, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

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3 Ring Circus - Live at The Palace
I have added the album 3 Ring Circus - Live at The Palace to Wikipedia. Please go there and add stuff to it. I didn't put the track listings for the DVDs and I don't know if the album charted. Any reviews you can find or other sources, please add. TuckerResearch (talk) 18:14, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

Incarnation as Sloppy 2ds
I know nothing about Sublime or its music but this may be a detail that should be added: "When I was twenty-one ... and playing in a garage band called Sloppy 2nds ... . Sloppy 2nds disbanded and when it later reformed without me, it became Sublime, the most famous Long Beach band of all time." From an article by Eric K. Ward at https://www.politicalresearch.org/2017/06/29/skin-in-the-game-how-antisemitism-animates-white-nationalism. Czrisher (talk) 16:29, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Highschool
Unconfirmed source, but I heard that most of the members went to “Woodrow Wilson high school” at long-beach. 97.126.101.155 (talk) 22:53, 17 April 2024 (UTC)