Talk:Subterranean rivers of London

Removals
I've removed the River Ken, as I can find no reference to this. I've also removed the River Holbourne, as this is a synonym for the upper reaches of the River Fleet. The Langbourne appears to be an alleged river - for which no proof has ever been found. I've created an article accordingly, but this may need correcting if anyone can find a better reference somewhere. Thanks, Ian Cairns 00:50, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)


 * The River Ken may have been a joke reference to a certain world famous (in London) unrecontructed Trotskyite. -- RHaworth 09:52, 2005 Jan 22 (UTC)


 * I've added the Langbourne back in under the name Lorteburn, which is the one the archaeologists seem to have settled upon. There are now adequate sources to confirm its existence. --Agrestis (talk) 11:37, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

Can We Include
Can we include river underground in Greater London, there are some wonderful examples? -- Hugh Petrie
 * Well - let's have the examples then. -- RHaworth 13:24, 2005 Mar 17 (UTC)

Possibly Add
I found this at http://www.wildtrout.org/WTT/library/features/lostlondon.asp (which is in the External links list):
 * (needs rewording to avoid CopyVio) the Hackney Brook which entered the Lea, and the little Brent, running through Ealing, Perivale, Greenford and Brentford.

RHaworth 09:52, 2005 Jan 22 (UTC)


 * Reworded for Lea now, plus Hackney Brook article added. Tarquin Binary 11:56, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Sutton web site
The London Borough of Sutton external link has gone dead so I have removed it from the article and stored its address here in case it comes to life again. this article (RJP 10:12, 1 August 2006 (UTC))

Verb
Does anyone know if there is a verb for "to make a river subterranean?" I'm translating another article and the verb figures quite heavily. Thanks. - Oreo Priest  09:47, 31 October 2007 (UTC)


 * to culvert? (better late than never) Pterre (talk) 21:49, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I just went with cover. The article is covering of the Senne. Thanks.  Oreo Priest  17:01, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Map?
This page could really benefit from a map. Anyone know the exact paths of the rinvers and could put one together? Gavinatkinson (talk) 19:44, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

The Tyburn
Okay, there might not be any sources strong enough to completely deny the claims of the Tyburn flowing through the antique shop's basement. However the images posted here and here should be enough to allow for a "supposedly" in front of the statement, since that water looks nothing like what you see on the photo in the article. --Baumi (talk) 16:12, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

The Graveney River
The link leads to a disambiguation page. Jackiespeel (talk) 18:59, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

Source: London's Lost Rivers
A good source might be: http://www.londonslostrivers.com/ 80.150.212.245 (talk) 08:58, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

River Rom - East to West
I could be wrong but surely the Rom is in the East - certainly not West of Brent — Preceding unsigned comment added by Phileadie (talk • contribs) 11:55, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Recent edits
I removed "passing mentions" in fiction re WP:IPC. None of the books were about subterranean rivers. The River Wandle flows above ground. This strong source states that there is no evidence the Langbourne ever existed. The river on the North bank of the Thames do not all flow East to West, as stated. Span (talk) 14:10, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

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Faggeswell Brook
There are passing mentions of this with reference to Crossrail - and  probably suffice as references. A mention here or on the River Fleet page? Jackiespeel (talk) 17:35, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

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Muswell Stream vs River Moselle
I'm having trouble finding a difference between the Muswell Stream (it has a redlink in the article) and the River Moselle (which is bluelinked) in online sources. Most of them seem to fudge the difference, even if they acknowledge it to start with. The source provided for both Muswell Stream and River Moselle only mentions the former; the context seems to reference the latter.

Are these two waterways, or are they, as I suspect, just the one with two different names? ◦ Trey Maturin 18:23, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

Langbourne
I have added back in a section for the Langbourne. The original of this section was removed in 2012 by one editor without discussion. I have expanded and rewritten the original text of the section and added additional references for why this stream probably existed. It should probably be expanded to a full article. Agrestis (talk) 06:24, 27 December 2022 (UTC)