Talk:Sudetendeutsche Landsmannschaft

Sudetendeutsche Landsmannschaft
Is neo-nazi organization, by viev of many peoples (some belives SDL was founded direcly by expelled nazis, and this mayby is not far away from truth) e.q. by  Erich Spater and his book. (link - http://www.perlentaucher.de/buch/22742.html)

== Informations to Dr. Walter Staffa, since 1946 in Germany, born * 7. September 1917 in Kromeriz (then Kremsier / Österreich-Ungarn), active for the "sudetendeutsche Sache" in "Sudetendeutsche Landsmannschaft and the Far right oranzation "Deutsches Seminar" in Germany ==

I am writing and editing under some difficulties (in the moment application to wipe it away) and some other actions, see
 * http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sudetendeutsche_Landsmannschaft&diff=next&oldid=39516818

the article Dr. Walter Staffa in the german Wikipedia (See:~http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Staffa) for informations about Dr. Walter Staffa, a high member of the "Sudetendeutsche Landsmannschaft" in Germany, but a Far Right too.

Even I'm looking for informations about the so called Hodolein-camp near Olomouc (in this time called too "Olmütz"). Which persons where in the camp? Normal members of the german "Wehrmacht", normal people called "Sudetendeutsche", or members of organisations of Konrad Henlein oder NSDAP-members? Dr. Walter Staffa is a far right, former in the "Sudetendeutsche Landsmannschaft" und in the "Witikobund", leader of the extrem right "Deutsches Seminar". See here*http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsches_Seminar

I want to proof what he said about the "Lager Hodolein" near "Olmütz".

Any information is warmly welcomed. Please inform me in the '''german" Wikipedia, under member "Nup".

Just klick here: *http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer_Diskussion:Nup

Thank you in advice

Nup (contact:http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer_Diskussion:Nup)

Thank ou in advice!

Nup (talk) 12:19, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Czech nationalists have always tried to discriminate the Sudetendeutsche Landsmannschaft and push it into a right corner. Every Landsmannschaft on earth is made up of different people with different political views. This is meant as a distraction from their own guilt. Ethnical cleansing is and will always remain a serious crime. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wurzeln und Flügel (talk • contribs) 19:40, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

European accord?
The charter was signed in Stuttgart in 1950 and committed the organization to the renouncing of revenge and retaliation and promoting European accord After the expulsion: West Germany and Eastern Europe, 1945-1990 by Pertti Ahonen actually writes that they were influenced by agressive nationalists, continued to claim validity of Hitler's Munich pact and had annexionist longings(page 173) --MyMoloboaccount (talk) 17:20, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

The usual lies and hate from Czech nationalists against Sudeten Germans. Are you not ashamed that the Norwegian assassin and mass murderer took your sick thoughts as a basis for the killing of 77 young Norwegian people. He got his information about the Sudeten Germans, their expulsion and the Benes Decrees from foren like these. German Wikipedia, even worse than the American, because there is a very active far Left from GDR, is trying very hard to get infamous sentences out of Wikipedia. They have already lost their reputation as democrats. But they fear the media now.--92.229.244.33 (talk) 17:00, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Translation request
German wiki writes this: Mehrere Jahrzehnte wurden die Vorsitzenden der Sudetendeutschen Landsmannschaft von Mitgliedern des rechtsextremistischen Witiko-Bundes gestellt, der sich als „nationale Gesinnungsgemeinschaft der Sudetendeutschen“ versteht. May we have a translation of this text?--MyMoloboaccount (talk) 17:23, 18 July 2010 (UTC)


 * "For several decades, the Presidents of the Sudetendeutsche Landsmannschaft were drawn from the members of the far-right Witiko-Bund, which presents itself as a 'national community/movement of the Sudeten Germans'." Gesinnungsgemeinschaft is not really translateable with one word in English, the closest would be "community of spirit/convictions". In essence, it is another word for a political movement. Constantine  ✍  13:41, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Expellees, not refugees; expelled, not fled
Dear User:Yopie, with all due respect the version calling Expellees "Refugees" and describing the forced deportation, internment in camps and expulsion a "flight", is an insult to the Sudeten German Expellees and their descendants. The Sudeten Germans, unlike the East Prussians and the ethnic Germans of Vistula and Warthe, in vast majority never fled. Nor did most ever attempt to flee. Bohemia, Moravia, former Austrian Silesia etc. all remained under firm Wehrmacht control until 9 May, 1945. Until May 2, 1945, none tried to flee. Afterwards, fleeing was impossible and Sudeten Germans were confined to their homes by Communist and other Czech militias of the interim postwar Czechoslovak government under Benes. It is insulting to describe expellees as mere refugees. The expulsion is not controversial in wikipedia, it is an established fact they were expelled. However dire this debate still is inside the Czech Republic (of which of course 34 % of territory once had an ethnic German and German-speaking majority, including most central parts of Prague), this cannot justify any euphemisms.NiederlandeFW (talk) 09:09, 11 December 2012 (UTC)