Talk:Sue Upton

Heritage Foundation.
The better-known Heritage Foundation, that is, the far-right public policy research institute which is linked, is a different organization than the Heritage Foundation that Ms. Upton is a member of. Therefore I'm removing the link for the political HF, and adding an external link for "Sue's" HF. -- Larsen525 20:58, 11 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I've made a disambiguated internal link - we rarely link to external sites except in "References" and "External link" sections. -- Jeandré, 2007-06-12t19:50z

Merge.
I also propose merging this article into "Sue Upton (actress)" as this is the link given in the article for "The Benny Hill Show." -- Larsen525 20:58, 11 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I think it would be better to move any information at Sue Upton (actress) here - we don't need to disambiguate the article title. -- Jeandré, 2007-06-12t19:50z


 * The reason the Sue Upton (actress) link was started originally, prior to the creation of this page, was because on that article on The Benny Hill Show, for a period when one clicked on Sue's name, they were directed to a page which was somehow related to Sherlock Holmes (I forget specifically how). What course to take from here on forth is all right by me. –Wbwn 20:08, 18 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I agree, it looks like all information in this article is a wikified version of the other article. I'll go ahead and just redirect the old article to here, if I've missed any info feel free to change it. Boccobrock 00:00, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Year of birth.
The Internet Movie Database has accepted my year of birth for Ms. Upton, based on my conversation with her last month, and that now appears in their entry for her. I therefore propose changing from separate citations for the month and date of her birth (the "Q&A" page on her website) and the year (personal conversation, now IMDb) to one citation for the date, month, and year, as now given at the IMDb. Larsen525 21:27, 11 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Done, but fan sites and IMDb are not quite good enough published sources for bio info (tho IMDb's great for filmographies). Do you know of other reliable publised sources for this info? -- Jeandré, 2007-06-12t19:50z


 * As a performing-arts librarian, I can assure you that actors and especially actresses often make sure the dates of birth that make it into the "official" published sources, make them a year or two younger (if not more!) than their actual age. The same is true with Sue: the British Film Institute's SIFT (Sources of Information on Film and Television) Database gives an incorrect year for her birth, which is the year I cited when I first wrote the article and showed it to Sue. I still have a printout of the article, corrected by her in the presence of myself and another person, with the incorrect year crossed out and "1954" written by her above. This information came directly from Sue herself: if you'll provide me an email address, I'll be happy to send you a scan of the printed version, showing her handwritten correction; I could also ask the witness for verification that she did indeed make that change.


 * In short, you can't always trust what's in print, when it comes to a performer's age! :-) Larsen525 16:52, 19 June 2007 (UTC)


 * "any reader should be able to check that material added to Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source" - WP:V.
 * As long as IMDb is the only reference for the year, anyone can remove the year since IMDb is not a reliable enough source for years of birth. -- Jeandré, 2007-06-23t02:51z

Education and early career
I suggest that the paragraphs on "Education" and "Early career" be merged into one paragraph: "Education and early career." The two-sentence paragraph on "Education" doesn't seem long enough to stand on its own. Larsen525 17:44, 19 June 2007 (UTC)