Talk:Sufi Muslim Council

Hi everyone, I've fleshed the article out. I hope nobody minds.

"It has been estimated by some that up to 80% of UK Muslims are Sufi Muslims"
Where is the source for this statistic. Possibly sufi muslim councils own statistic. It also doesn't make sense since 'sufi' is a qualitative description i.e. The description sufi is a level attained. It is kind of like saying 80% of the british population are excellent.

The Sufi Muslim Council have never either (a) mentioned this statistic, (b) claim this stat to be true. In fact this figure comes from a person called Kurshid Ahmed who usually does not know what he is talking about. If you had taken the time to contact the SMC, you would have got an official response i.e Muhammad Yusuf (SMC rep for the 10 Somalian groups) spoke on this subject (at the recent anti extremist seminar that SMC organised and was attended by over 600 people from the Somali community), he actually talks about the fact that the term Sufi refers to ".. someone that has mastered his/her ego and reached a state of gnosticism" Please do not assume that because someone has attributed something to someone, then it is true - consider the Hadith of the people that had upset stomachs through eating their "brothers" flesh!

Is this just the UK version of the Kabbani 'Supreme' Islamic council of America because it seems so?

And concerning "eating other peoples flesh" please...... read the SMC webiste most of it is criticism of other groups/individuals.

founders
Haras Rafiq, a businessman, is co-founder of SMC.

Azhar Ali, co-founder of SMC. He's a Labour Party (UK) activist and failed in his attempt to be elected to the Labour's 2006 National Executive Council.
 * Why was details regarding these individuals deleted ? Pinkpot 21:36, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

rewrite
just completely rewrote the article, I assume cutting & pasting from the old deleted version of the article. I have some problems with the text that was added. It contains weasel woerds, unsubstantiated claims, and unencyclopedic text. &mdash; goethean &#2384; 18:42, 24 August 2006 (UTC)