Talk:Sugar, We're Goin Down

genre
I think the genre the genre should be changed to somthing more suitable. May I suggest Emo/Pop, or Emo/Punk

Not emo. Pop-punk or pop-rock is suitable, in my opinion.

um, i understand how it's pop punk, but how the heck is it emo!? the only other single labled emo (on wiki) is Saturday, and i can understand that (screaming), but sugar we're goin down has nothing like that. it should not be labled emo.--Darth 'ric, Jan 1-- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.162.228.164 (talk) 18:11, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

funny video parody
Video Parody (@ Google Video)

Not sure if this video attained or will attain cult/pop culture status in relation to this songs' unintelligible lyrics. -Andrew 08:55, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Tip: Don't post links to silly videos when you've had one too many Gin & Diet Sprites... -Andrew 18:28, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

I dunno mate, this parody is quite popular. User:CronoDroid

popularly misheard lyrics
"loaded god complex" or "loaded gun complex"?
 * I dunno, dya reckon this song could be about anti semitism? probably about their experiences as being shunned out of their communities and being thaught of as devils with the horns? what dya think?
 * It's "god complex," with a lowercase 'g'. God complex —paul?


 * dude i might be wrong but based on context it should be gun i mean " i'll be your #1 with a bullet a loaded gun complex cock it and pull it." really.

what about this, in the lyrics book that comes from the cd it says he wishes to be the "friction in his jeans" yet when you listen it's obviously not "his" but maybe "her" or "your" A typo in the printed lyrics? or maybe someone trying to make a gay joke.
 * Probably a typo. —Akrabbimtalk 23:24, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Pt. 2 Cover
Well, tooling around with WikiText for about 30 minutes, I could not figure out how to add to the bottom of the box for the Pt2 cover.. The image name is NonFreeImageRemoved.svg .Perhaps someone could help? -- Diehard2k5 01:21, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
 * There, I used the template.  I did the same thing on Fall Out Boy/Project Rocket Split EP and From Under the Cork Tree.  Oh, and could someone add some information about the second part?  I personally didn't even know there was a second part.  What's the point of showing the cover if we don't talk about what it's for.  I saw it in the track listing, but I still don't know what it is. —Akrabbimtalk 20:49, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
 * All it is is the second single released. The first single had a different B-Side than the second one. That's the only difference that I know of. -- Diehard2k5 00:25, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, if you figure out the release dates and information, it should be noted in the article. I don't know anything about that. &mdash;Akrabbimtalk 00:37, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
 * It's all on Amazon. They were both released on the same day. Diehard2k5 21:35, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Requested move
Shinigami Kamenzi attempted a cut-and-paste move, which I have since reverted. He tried to move it to Sugar, We're Goin Down, without an apostrophe at the end of 'Goin'. I agree with him that it should be moved, so I am formally proposing it.

Sugar, We're Goin' Down → Sugar, We're Goin Down … Rationale: The apostrophe at the end to 'Goin' is nonexistant in on most tracklistings of From Under the Cork Tree. &mdash;Akrabbimtalk 19:44, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Survey

 * Support: Per above. &mdash;Akrabbimtalk 19:44, 26 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Add *Support or *Oppose followed by an optional one-sentence explanation, then sign your opinion with  ~


 * Oppose: without the apostrophe is incorrect. Bubba ditto 23:27, 29 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Support: Despite the spelling "Sugar, We're Goin' Down" being more correct English, the track listing on the official CD album does not include the apostrophe in "Goin'" and neither does the title on the official CD single; both spell the title of the track "Sugar, We're Goin Down". Shinigami Kamenzi 16:36, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Discussion

 * Add any additional comments

Result
Moved. -- Kim van der Linde at venus 21:13, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Requested move
"Sugar, We're Going Down" That is the correct name.[1][2][3] Why are there multiple songs by the same band with articles incorrectly titled? How did this slide? Lara ♥Love  05:20, 8 August 2007 (UTC) 1 - Fueled by Ramen webstore 2 - Fall Out Boy's official website discography 3 - MTV.com artist bio

Upon further research (and looking at the previous discussion above, which I totally did not see until I changed the name of this one), I see that while many sources state "Going", the album itself states "Goin". Therefore, I withdraw my request. Not that anyone seemed to care. ;) Lara  ♥Love  04:34, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

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Song meaning
Ok, at the Warped Tour in 2005 (and subsequently on some fansites), the band said this song was about masturbation. Should we maybe put that on this page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ryanson209 (talk • contribs) 05:51, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
 * This song has infinite interpretations. If we were to list every one of them, the page would be mostly that; this is not what Wikipedia is for. Go to Songfacts if you want to see interpretations. MotherFerginPrincess (talk) 14:41, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Quote
The line, "I'll be your number one with a bullet" is a nod towards the movie, High Fidelity, where Rob talks about Laura being on his Top 5 of Worst Break-Ups with a bullet.

Really? I'm not so sure, it may be a reference or it may not, but untill theres evidence I don't think it belongs in the article. Kokiri kid (talk) 12:10, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Unofficial video
There is an [unofficial video] for the song that uses clips from the movie Saving Grace along with footage of the band playing from the original video. This was the first fan video for something other than a band ever to include band footage from an official music video. PrepJock101 (talk) 13:08, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Big Bang theory
I added the following text to the article and created a "Cultural references" section: "In the 2008 episode of  The Big Bang Theory "The Vartabedian Conundrum," there is a scene in which Leonard is talking to Penny and denies that he is living with his new girlfriend. After repeatedly trying (and failing) to make him listen to her, she says "So, you're gonna go down swingin', huh?" a reference to the song's refrain." 76.1.48.210 (talk) 02:07, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
 * To "go down swinging" (and its variants) is a common phrase. There's no proof that its use in The Big Bang Theory was in any way at all a reference to the song. Making an assumption that it is, as clearly indicated in the edit by "probably a reference" and the lack of a citation from a reliable source, is called original research and is unnaceptable. Incidentally, Penny doesn't say "So, you're gonna go down swingin', huh?", she says "You're going to go down swingin', huh?" although it's not certain whether or not she actually left the "g" off "swinging". --AussieLegend (talk) 00:24, 28 October 2009 (UTC) --AussieLegend (talk) 00:07, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Censorship from late Late Show
I fixed an earlier mistake in this section; they didn't think it was about the Branch Davidians, just killing in the name of religion, and the 9/11 attacks.PurpleBarney (talk) 21:14, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Westboro Baptist Church response
Westboro Baptist Church protested a Fall Out Boy concert back when the song first came out because they said it was about a girl falling in love with a gay man 71.50.60.52 (talk) 22:13, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Can you provide confirmation in a reliable source such as a newspaper?  Active  Banana    (bananaphone  22:18, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I can provide reliable sources as to the song being about that immediately if needed, but as for the protests, I vaguely remember hearing about them. I'll dig for a newspaper or something though, simply because I found it interesting that they were so against the band, yet they apparently listened to/researched the song enough to derive that meaning from it. 71.50.60.52 (talk) 22:41, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

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