Talk:Sugar Land, Texas/Archive 1

rv nonsense, huh? That's hilarious :) How about actually reading what it says, instead of having a kneejerk reaction? Since when did the Texas Sesquicentennial celebrate NASA's 25th anniversary? Since UH Collegian said so? Here's a clue: sesqui means 3/2s, and centennial means 100 years. Combine them to get 150 years--as in the 150th anniversary of the Republic of Texas. IceKarma should've "rv nonsense"d 3 months ago--208.180.124.100 06:24, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, okay, but your "etymology" was nonsense on top of other nonsense, and I didn't get around to figuring out who laid the lowest layer thereof before you did. I do know what it means, too, in spite of a math teacher who was convinced that "sesqui" itself meant "150 years" (argh!). Thanks for finding the relevant change for me, but next time perhaps consider repairing it yourself? ;) IceKarma&#x0950; 07:49, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

Money magazine update - Sugar Land is ranked 46th in the nation this year for best places to live, not 17th. It was just released - http://money.cnn.com/best/bplive/snapshots/48166.html

Plus, I think 17th was not entirely true. I believe that was for cities of a certain size and/or in a certain region. I just checked http://money.cnn.com/best/bplive/cities_table/ It looks like it was 18th in "Western region, under 100,000 population" for 2004. 46th for the whole country, all sizes, is much more impressive anyway!

It might be a good idea to add updates on 2 things - #1 the plans to redevelop the Imperial property and #2 the expansion of the airport, which will be completed in a year. --swzine

I'm glad to see that this article is finally organized with a decent amount of uncluttered information!

-- Halcyon

The U.S. Census designation for the Houston Metropolitan Area is no longer Houston&mdash;Galveston&mdash;Brazoria. The new designation is now Houston&mdash;Sugar Land&mdash;Baytown as of 2003. -- UH Collegian

I edited this statement:

"Sugar Land could quite possibly have the largest and most affluent Asian American community in Texas, and outside of California, the largest in the nation."

I deleted the last part because it was troubling. I don't know if the author meant to say either that Sugar Land has the largest and most affluent Asian-American community in the nation outside of California, or, as the syntax of the statement shows, if the author was insinuating that Sugar Land has the largest Asian-American community in the nation outside of California, which is clearly wrong. --Sidney135

Getting Sugar Land featured
UH Collegian asked me to work with him to get this article up to featured status for a prospective nomination at WP:FAC. I have expanded the article lead, and placed a picture at the top of the article. Here are my suggestions I'd merge the overview section into the other sections, most of it can go in the history section. In the history section I'd concentrate on historic periods, such as Company town, rather than decades, historic periods of course overlap. I'd also change Beginnings to a title like Early settlement. Much of the information is good however some passages read more like a Chamber of Commerce brochure than an encyclopedia. Obviously anyone who loves a city enough to spend a great deal of time on an article has an interest in promoting. The key to doing this acceptably is present the impressive facts, and Sugar Land has several, in a neutral manner and let the facts speak for themselves, people will still be impressed but the information will be NPOV. In other words avoid words like, boasts and remarkably, in favor of words like has or have. Its any easy mistake, I've done it many times myself.

Pics
The article has far too many pictures, photos should be used sparingly and IMO should never be included side by side unless at the top or bottom of a section and there's a way to format that. What is the pics source? Some of them look like artwork rather than photos. Photos should have relevency for the section they are in many of the ones below did not. Also, in my experience its good to alternate pics form left to right it creates more room for more pics and is more visually appealing. Also the pics names SL001.jpg ect., are not properly named. The upload specifically asks for specific names, e.g., Old Imperial Sugar Char House.jpg, I would adivse that the pics be uploaded under more specifc names at Wikipedia Commons. The pics that are not used in the article can also be included on the Commons Sugar Land page and a link to the commons page can be added to the Sugar Land article. I've included the pics I removed below. -JCarriker 05:08, Jun 25, 2005 (UTC)

Media
This statement:"Many radio and television stations, whom they say is 'Houston-based' actually broadcast from the Sugar Land and surrounding areas. Stations such as KPRC (Houston NBC Affiliate), KRIV (Houston's Fox Affiliate), KXTH (Houston's UPN Affiliate), and all of the Clear Channel radio stations in the Houston area are all broadcasting from this large commercialized area." . . . is either completely inaccurate or very misleading.

None of those stations are based in Sugar Land. KRIV is in Houston on 59 inside the loop, KPRC is in Houston on 59 outside the loop, and KXTH isn't even a real station. However, Houston has KTXH, which is on Kirby, inside the loop. If the intent was to talk about the antennas or something, I'm not convinced that's notable or even remotely interesting.

Citations, tone
This article is practically citation free, and the tone is a bit rah-rah/boosterish in spots. Too many unnecessary superlatives and such. Anyone who has been working on this want to take a crack at adding citations? I don't want to spend much time on stylistic stuff myself, but anyone working on this article might want to consider it. Gwimpey 04:43, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

Land of Sugar?
"Sugar Landers often refer to the city by its nickname: 'The Land of Sugar'"....I have lived in Sugar Land for 20 years, and I have never heard anyone call it "The Land of Sugar". MarkDB 01:17, 15 January 2006 (UTC)