Talk:Sultanate of Maguindanao

genealogy of the royal family
Genealogy of the royal family of the sultanate

http://books.google.com/books?id=KmcgAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA41&dq=tuli+philippines&hl=en&sa=X&ei=hAyrUIKiMZKJ0QHB7oHoBw&ved=0CDIQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=tuli%20philippines&f=false

Ethnological Survey publications Philippines Ethnological Survey, Philippines. Dept. of the Interior

http://books.google.com/books?id=S0KgAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA41&dq=tuli+philippines&hl=en&sa=X&ei=hAyrUIKiMZKJ0QHB7oHoBw&ved=0CDUQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=tuli%20philippines&f=false

Publications Philippines. Bureau of Science. Division of Ethnology

http://books.google.com/books?id=UVvwAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA41&dq=tuli+philippines&hl=en&sa=X&ei=hAyrUIKiMZKJ0QHB7oHoBw&ved=0CDgQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=tuli%20philippines&f=false

Publications - Philippines. Ethnological Survey

http://books.google.com/books?id=RcY_AAAAYAAJ&pg=PA41&dq=tuli+philippines&hl=en&sa=X&ei=hAyrUIKiMZKJ0QHB7oHoBw&ved=0CEoQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=tuli%20philippines&f=false

Division of Ethnology Publications

http://books.google.com/books?id=uiJBAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA36&dq=saleeby++philippines+animism&hl=en&sa=X&ei=tBCrUKTIKfPK0AGvh4CwDA&ved=0CDgQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=saleeby%20%20philippines%20animism&f=false

Encyclopædia of Religion and Ethics

http://books.google.com/books?id=T8TaJDb2rlUC&pg=PA36&dq=saleeby++philippines+animism&hl=en&sa=X&ei=tBCrUKTIKfPK0AGvh4CwDA&ved=0CD4Q6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=saleeby%20%20philippines%20animism&f=false

Encyclopaedia of Religion and Ethics: Volume 1. A - Art. Part 1. A - Algonquins

http://books.google.com/books?id=5EFihegRpmkC&pg=PA74&dq=saleeby++philippines+animism&hl=en&sa=X&ei=tBCrUKTIKfPK0AGvh4CwDA&ved=0CDsQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=saleeby%20%20philippines%20animism&f=false

Handbook of Ethnic Conflict: International Perspectives

Rajmaan (talk) 22:03, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Sultanate of Buayan
http://opinion.inquirer.net/49671/how-maguindanao-and-cotabato-rulers-helped-sulu-win-sabah

Not to be used as a source, but I found further links through it.

http://en.wikipilipinas.org/index.php?title=Sultanate_of_Buayan


 * Search:Philippines. (accessed on August 14, 2007).
 * The Moro Sultanates. (accessed on August 14, 2007).

Rajmaan (talk) 22:15, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

History
http://mnlfnet.com/History/The%20Maguindanao%20Sultanate.htm

http://mnlfnet.com/History/How%20Islam%20Came%20to%20Mindanao.htm

http://mnlfnet.com/History/Photo_Archives.htm

http://mnlfnet.com/History/MaguindanaoSultan1%20w%20Gov.%20Finley%201899-1901.htm

http://mnlfnet.com/History/MaguindanaoSultan%20n%20Attendabts%201899-1901.htm

Rajmaan (talk) 17:52, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Triumph of Moro Diplomacy: The Maguindanao Sultanate in the 17th Century By Ruurdje Laarhoven
http://books.google.com/books?id=mEFyAAAAMAAJ&q=Habier+Malik&dq=Habier+Malik&hl=en&sa=X&ei=eF4XVPjrCbOBsQTO8IKQDw&ved=0CEQQ6AEwBzgU

Rajmaan (talk) 21:53, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

--- "BISMILLAH HIRAKMANIR-RAHEEM, ASALAMU ALAIKUM WARAHMATULAHI WABARAKATUHU"

GREETINGS: PROGENY OF 1752 THREE SULTANS OF MINDANAO THRU 1825 SULU SULTAN JAMALUL KIRAM-I (MUWALIL WASIT) UNTO MAHARAJA ADINDA TAUP (PRINCE HEIR-APPARENT OF 1859 SULU SULTAN MOH. FAD'LUN OR PULALUN) AND SON OF BRUNEI NAKHODA PERKASA ANGGING (GRANDSON OF 2ND BRUNEI SULTAN AHMAD THROUGH AMIR-ALATAS.

HIS HIGHNESS STANDS AS HEIR AND SUCCESSOR OF MINDANAO AND SULU AS ITS MONARCHICAL SYMBOL OF ITS PEOPLE'S DIGNITY, AS LINEAGES FROM 1752 SULTANS OF MINDANAO: KIRAM SINSUAT, KIRAM SORONGA AND KIRAM MISUARI, TO DATU PIANG TAN TO 1704 SULU TO 1861 SULU SULTAN PULALUN.

WA BILLAHI TAWFIQ WAL-HIDAYA,

"WASSALAMU ALAIKUM WARAHMATULLAH"

HRM. ASHRF. MAULANA PADUKA AHMAD CARPENTER YU TIAMCO ARPA-V IBNI MAHARAJA ADINDA TAUP ANGGING (ANDDIN) ZEIN UL-ABIDIN SULTAN SHARIF UL-HASHIM ABU'BKR MOHAMAD SHAH ULRIJAL BOLKIAH TAGEAN — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.100.251.189 (talk) 04:16, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

nobody's going to read a list of friggin sultans
also it looks really crappily written. At least bullet point it, but i think that section should be removed entirely. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:BCC4:2230:4CE0:5B94:DD70:6981 (talk) 03:08, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

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Disestablishment date
Someone keeps putting 1928. It's not 1928. There is no source anywhere that says its 1928.

[https://books.google.com.ph/books?id=KJNCAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA787&lpg=PA787&dq=sultan+mangigin+1900&source=bl&ots=KLWtzT5lkZ&sig=ACfU3U0Ntljghd_ZQbb1dacZyOe0qnrcdA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjiq5Ld9O6BAxVzzjgGHSRlA3I4HhDoAXoECAQQAw#v=onepage&q=sultan%20mangigin%201900&f=false Report of the United States Philippine Commission ... - United States. Philippine Commission (1900-1916) - Google Books]

The Philippine Revolution in Mindanao - Dialnet (unirioja.es)

Studies in Moro History, Law, and Religion (gutenberg.org)

Kindly read these please

All the information that these sources contain does not say 1928, and contradicts 1928

- American forces arrived in Cotabato by December 1899

- Sultan Mangigin exiled from Cotabato (it even says on this page too and I'm not the one who wrote that there)

[https://books.google.com.ph/books?id=_SUUAAAAYAAJ&pg=RA1-PA98&lpg=RA1-PA98&dq=sultan+mangigin+1900&source=bl&ots=WfrzvaTZPF&sig=ACfU3U2hHkVVlBEPPMzfH3YChLM6o_WP1w&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjiq5Ld9O6BAxVzzjgGHSRlA3I4HhDoAXoECAMQAw#v=onepage&q=sultan%20mangigin%201900&f=false Report of the Philippine Commission to the Secretary of War ... 1900-1915 - United States. Philippine Commission (1900-1916) - Google Books]

- 4 months ago (December 1900) Sultan Mangigin lived in Cotabato, but now he lives in Sibuguey

[https://books.google.com.ph/books?id=qyo-Hti0-KAC&pg=PA95&lpg=PA95&dq=sultan+mangigin+datu+piang&source=bl&ots=s9nHxQSQUU&sig=ACfU3U2fZ0TTrKoW76ovw6zdoAY2Lzu6Bg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj7gq6c_O6BAxWw4DgGHfZiAMM4ChDoAXoECAMQAw#v=onepage&q=sultan%20mangigin%20datu%20piang&f=false A Local Church Living for Dialogue: Muslim-Christian Relations in Mindanao ... - William Larousse - Google Books]

Sultan Mangigin was also friendly to the Americans

And the fact that he died in 1926 means by 1928 the Sultan of Maguindanao was completely powerless as Sultan Mangigin was the last recognized Sultan by the Americans.

There is no dispute that it was not disestablished in 1928, but rather much earlier than that. For the sake of clarification, let us ignore the claims and focus on de facto. By 1899, the Americans controlled the capital of Maguindanao, and was therefore the sovereigns and overlords of Maguindanao. At the Sultanate of Maguindanao was ruled by a mere warlord, Datu Piang of Bacat.

1899 is a better and more accurate date. 1928 is pure guesswork. I don't understand why someone keeps putting 1928. however if we base on sultan mangigin's death, as he was the last recognized sultan of maguindanao, its 1926. so, if we go towards the neutral approach, it is safe to conclude that the date should be both 1899 and 1926. but it's not 1928. Delirium333 (talk) 21:51, 11 October 2023 (UTC)