Talk:Summer Olympics medal count

Athens 2004
Someone please add the Athens 2004 medal count!


 * I added in 2004 and recalculated everything. I have an Excel spreadsheet with these calculations in it - leave me a message if you want a copy.  Maybe I'll upload a copy to the commons...  --SFoskett 21:48, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Has this data been added to the article? If not, upload it to the commons and leave a link to it here with a message and I'm sure someone will add the information to the article for you. --Jared 22:39, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, I updated the table as well. Here's the file:  Commons:Image:Olympics medal counts.xls  --SFoskett 15:27, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Here is a list of the "winners" of each edition:

1896-USA 1900-France 1904-USA 1908-Great Britain 1912-USA 1920-USA 1924-USA 1928-USA 1932-USA 1936-Germany 1948-USA 1952-USA 1956-USSR 1960-USSR 1964-USA 1968-USA 1972-USSR 1976-USSR 1980-USSR 1984-USA 1988-USSR 1992-Unified Team 1996-USA 2000-USA 2004-USA

--Scaryice 09:25, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Add Flags!!
Could someone please take the time to add flags before the name of each country. Also, the same thing needs to be done to the Winter Olympics medal count page. You can use this page as an example if you don't know what I am talking about! Thank you very much! --Jared 20:16, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Update!
This page needs flags badly, as this page is the model for all of the others! Please also add the medal icons instead of the names "Gold", etc. See 2006 Winter Olympics medal count as a guide. The Winter Olympics page also needs this revision! --Jared 00:02, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

The IOC does not officially recognize medal tallies or standings
It must be mentioned that the IOC "does not officially recognize national medal totals, nor recommend using one way of assigning medals by country over another. The original Olympic charter forbade a medal count that included a ranking per country". All medal counts published by the media are unofficial; so is the one above. (I have an article to prove)

we should point this out.

Which means the claim at the beggining of this article is FALSE. IOC does not use any system.

A MAJOR editing in every olympic medal count is needed. particularly this one,

"These rankings sort by the number of gold medals earned by a country (in this context a country is an entity represented by a National Olympic Committee). The number of silvers is taken into consideration next and then the number of bronze. If, after the above, countries are still tied, equal ranking is given and they are listed alphabetically. This follows the system used by the IOC???, IAAF and BBC.

Dual Nation listings?
I don't understand why there are some dual and triple country listings. Is it that these 2 (3) countries once competed together for one olympics. Or did they all have the same rank?...but then some would be listed twice. Someone please clarify this for me! --Jared 21:45, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
 * (*)In early Olympic Games team sports could be contested by squads made up of athletes from more than one country.I answered my own question. haha. --Jared 21:50, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
 * It would be interesting to know more about the multi-country medals.. Mlm42 18:45, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Criticism paragraph
As with the article Total Olympics medal count where Medalstats has insisted on adding the same criticism I have taken it out of this article. Unsourced criticism, personal views and the like have no place here. This is simply an adding together of numbers that wasn't "designed" to do anything. Medalstats may discuss this on this talkpage in hte meanwhile.--Kalsermar 20:26, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Bohemia/Czech Republic
Given that Bohemia is a part of the Czech Republic, the Eastern half of the country around Prague, shouldn't its medals be added to those of the Czech Republic to provide a more accurate representation of how the people from the Czech Republic have gone in the Olympics?


 * The issue of combining certain countries' medal totals has already been debated on the Olympic conventions page (link is at the very top of this page), and was defeated. So no, there will be no combining of medal totals. King nothing 2 09:20, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Soviet Union/USSR/Unified Team
Another one of these, the Soviet Union/USSR/Unified Team are all the same. Shouldn't the medals won by the Unified Team in 1992 be added to those won by the USSR during its existence? Having said this, Russia is a different beast altogether and should never have included in its tallies medals won by the USSR or the Unified Team.


 * The issue of combining certain countries' medal totals has already been debated on the Olympic conventions page (link is at the very top of this page), and was defeated. So no, there will be no combining of medal totals.  And just to let you know, the Soviet Union and Unified Team isn't exactly the same.  When the Soviet Union dissolved, it split up into 15 different countries.  The Unified Team was comprised of only 12 countries. King nothing 2 09:16, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Germany/W. Germany/E. Germany
Given the current status of Germany as a unified country, shouldn't all medals won by Germans be included in the current German total? Given that the two Germanys were only the result of a political stalemate out of German control - separating out medals won by East & West Germany away from the overall German total is not a fair representation of how many medals have been won by Germany at the Olympic Games.

On the list I would propose that countries that no longer exist and hence compete be listed in Italics with their participation dates in brackets after their name, and that the rankings should be of countries that are currently active and still participating. West Germany would still be on the list in its present place, but not ranked.


 * The issue of combining certain countries' medal totals has already been debated on the Olympic conventions page (link is at the very top of this page), and was defeated. So no, there will be no combining of medal totals.  The point of Wikipedia's medal count pages is not to try to be "fair," but rather to be historically accurate and straightforward.  King nothing 2 09:20, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Re: 1906 Intercalated games
I would like to inform any person willing to do this that the 1906 intercalated games medals should be removed from this page and the total medals page, per the consensus of the Wikipedia community, which can be viewed here. This shouldn't be a big project, and I would appreciate any person willing to do this. If you really feel helpful, mayber make sure that all of the numbers on these pages are correct. Thanks for your help! -- Jared  [T]/[+ ] 21:13, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Agreed. The IOC doesn't recognize them, so I don't know why we do. King nothing 2 21:43, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Well it's not a matter of not recognizing them; on the contrary, it has been decided that we don't recognize them. It is just a matter of finding someone to get rid of all of the medals from the 1906 count, which is fairly easy, but I just don't want to do the work myself! -- Jared  [T]/[+ ] 01:34, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Mistake ?
In other wiki's (GER, POL, NED, ESP) it's Canada which has 82 gold medals, and Romania with 55, not inversely.


 * Some of those other tables need to be fixed. I can vouch for the correctness of the EN wiki tables - I have verified every year against the IOC database.  Andrwsc 21:32, 28 December 2006 (UTC)