Talk:Sundarbans

Tiger website
here is a link to a website containing information on sundarbans tigers. It has weekly updates from a research team who are monitoring a radio collared tiger-

www.sundarbanstigerproject.info

I think it would be a relevent link for both this "Sundarbans" page and any on tigers

All the best

Adam Barlow barl0048@umn.edu

202.56.4.109 10:01, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

please help if you can
are tigers really vanishing? i read ,amazingly if true, that sunderbans are not natural forestlands, but manmade ones. and most likely to be implanted by britishers during their colonial rule. as a proof of it, it is known that the trees in sunderbans are in a straight line contrary to the principles of nature where they should have been in random order as seen on all the natural jungles. if anyone can vindicate or reprove it by via authetic source i shall be grateful to him user:nidhishsinghal email: nidhishsinghal123@yahoo.com


 * Sorry, this simply is NOT true. There have been various reports and accounts preceeding any European visit to Bengal. And also, the trees being in a straight line is also untrue. Thank you. --Ragib 22:44, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

hi. nice to hear from you. i know that there have been various reports and accounts preceeding any european visit to bengal for sunderban forests. but they only indicated the presence of much smaller sunderban delta with indegenious trees and mangrooves like Nypa fruticans. what the matter of fact is that sunderbans derive their name from sundari trees, the largest and tallest ones in the so called forest range. and they cover the much larger part of now what is called sunderban delta. and they are the ones which are mostly found in straight line,(its a documented fact) which further suggest a man made origin. my only doubt was that whether this extension of sunderbans was done by the brits or it predated them. may be, you can have a look at the indian side of sunderban delta (for the straight line fact) as i dont have much information about the bangladeshi side. although i really appreciate your kind reply. thanking you.

nids 01:53, 24 July 2006 (UTC)nidhishsinghal

--nidhishsinghal


 * I don't know where you get these crazy information (and "documented" facts), but these are definitely wrong. For one thing, the size of the forest has dwindled currently to 1/3rd of its size 200 years ago (see Banglapedia, when the first surveys were conducted by British East India Company.


 * Anyway, here are some references you should dig up in your local libraries, instead of reading awesomely fascinating-sounding, but totally baseless conspiracy theories about a man-made forest.


 * D Prain, Bengal Plants, 2 vols, Calcutta, 1903;
 * D Prain, Flora of Sundarbans Records of the Botanical Survey of India. New Delhi; 1903;
 * Khasru Choudhury et al The Bangladesh Sundarbans, IUCN- The World Conservation Union, Dhaka, 2001;
 * NA Siddiqi, Mangrove Forestry in Bangladesh, IFES, Uni. Chittagong, 2001.


 * Thanks. --Ragib 02:46, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

It is really unpleasant that there is no picture of Royal Bengal Tigers for which the Sundarbans are famous. Ragib, can you kindly add a photo of a tiger?

The second thing, in the introduction of the article, why the name of India has come before Bangladesh, whereas 81% Sundarbans is in Bangladesh. Bangladesh deserve more emphasize than India when the article is on Sundarbans. Thanks. Farhad, Australia, 3 May 2012

Conflicting Tigers
There are two references to the number of tigers in the Sundarbans. I am in favour of the 700 as it has a citation. Can we please sort this out? Evildoctorcow 09:29, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Could the reference to the tigers being 'man eating' also be deleted since I'm sure that is not their sole dietry intake :) It seesm to me most people will realise that tigers can be dangerous to humans.--Mrg3105 19:57, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Question:

"There are several speculated causes as to why these tigers maul humans:"

Why do you need reasons? Why shouldn't they?

Dolphins
The Sunderbans is also home to some rare species of freshwater dolphins:the gangetic dolphin and the Irrawaddy for instance.These species are fast disappearing in South and South East Asia.They have recently come under threat due to rising salinity levels in the waters;in fact,the pin dolphin,a salt water species has recently been sighted in Bangladesh.The Olive Ridley Turtle,yet another endangered species,has its habitat here.I feel it is important to mention these in the article,as these are an important part of a fragile ecology.......Anirudh

Question from a neophyte
Hello. I just created a Wikipedia account and haven't yet edited anything, but am excited to do so. Before I do I wanted to check and get some opinions on whether or not what I had in mind is worthwhile/conforms to WP standards. I found this article because the tiger in Yann Martel's "The Life of Pi" is a Sundarban tiger, and I wanted to know more about them. Is that fact - that the tiger in the book is from the Sundarbans - worth noting in the article? Or is it too minor? Thanks!

Sjforman 16:57, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

A good source
A good source of information for this article is this book (full text available online):



 Arman  ( Talk ) 05:14, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Man-Eating Tigers?
I find it very hard to believe that 500 tigers in the Sundarbans kill 100-250 people per year and nobody does anything to stop it. Could somebody verify this "Man-Eating Tigers" section and add some references? ~ FerralMoonrender (T • C) 03:58, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * This website claims that the number of human deaths was 1,000 - 1,600 in 1930s. This article, published in 1997, claims the annual number to be 300. This 2004 news item gives statistics of 59 deaths on only the Bangladesh side of the forest, on the other hand this BBC news item claims 50 deaths per year on Indian side. Based on all these it is fair to comment that the number of death is probably gradually decreasing but still an annual number between 100-250 could be a reasonable estimate.  Arman  ( Talk ) 09:25, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Sundarbans, Sundarbans mangroves, and Sundarbans freshwater swamp forests
I undid the merge with the article Sundarbans because the Sundarbans freshwater swamp forests are an ecoregion, composed of seasonally-flooded freshwater forests, which is distinct from the Sundarbans mangroves, an ecoregion of permanently flooded brackish-water mangrove forests. They have a different ecology and species composition. The Sundarbans article is about the mangrove forests. Tom Radulovich (talk) 01:47, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Moved back. Sorry, there's ample space for both eco-regions here. And, things would remain less complicated and/or more comprehensive that way. Please, discuss before moving back again (if you do). Aditya (talk • contribs) 02:59, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Improvement needed
The article needs improvement. The picture given is of vietnamese tiger and the economy section is vandalised. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.97.176.70 (talk) 09:25, 14 April 2010 (UTC) I second that. There's a lot of repeated information in this article, it oculd do with a thorough rework. I've made a start on some of it but it's still very clumsy Istanbuljohnm (talk) 09:32, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

regarding mangroves
This section:

Mangrove Adaptations

Mangrove plants live in hostile environmental conditions such as high salinity, hypoxic (oxygen deficient) waterlogged soil strata, tidal pressures, strong winds and sea waves. To cope with such a hostile environment, mangroves exhibit highly evolved morphological and physiological adaptations to extreme conditions.

Do mangroves need salt?

The answer is no. Mangroves are facultative halophytes, i.e., the presence of salt in the environment is not necessary for the growth of mangroves and they can grow very well in freshwater as well. One particular advantage to growing in a salty environment is the lack of competition! Only a limited number of plants have invested evolutionary energy in adapting to intertidal conditions. In the optimum conditions of a tropical rainforest, diversity is great and competition fierce.

Strikes me as almost definitely plagiarized. What do you guys think? --65.212.104.138 (talk) 04:46, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

IUCN infobox
Shouldn't we use Infobox protected area as well? Aditya (talk • contribs) 08:37, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: rename. Note that the nominator had added an RFC tag to the discussion, which I have removed. I have not previously seen an RM discussion morphed into an RFC, and although I can imagine that it might help in some intractable cases, this one appears quite straightforward. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 21:36, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Sundarbans Reserve Forest → Sundarbans – This article used be titled Sundarbans, which is the world's largest mangrove forest. It was mistakenly moved to Sundarbans Reserve Forest. No such thing exists. Sundarbans have 4 reserve forests within it. 3 in Bangladesh and 1 in West Bengal. The reason for the move was avoiding edit warring, where there had never been an edit war at this article. Aditya (talk • contribs) 14:22, 8 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Support - per WP:COMMONNAME. -- Zayeem  (talk) 17:17, 8 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Support. Even if there were a reserve forest of that name, WP:OFFICIALNAME/WP:UCN kicks in.  —  AjaxSmack   00:16, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
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Grammar - singular or plural?
Is the Sundarbans a singular or plural? WHC writes "the Sundarbans is", so I'm changing it to singular in the article.--Adûnâi (talk) 04:32, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

A broken link
The first link in the External links section is broken.--Adûnâi (talk) 04:48, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Fixed.  Arman  ( Talk ) 12:26, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

Article only about Bangladesh?
The article refers to Bangladeshi and Indian areas of the Sundarbans. Why then is the distinction made between the two at the top of the article? And not all of the Sundarbans in India is encompassed by Sundarbans National Park, so that disambiguation template should be deleted. C1MM (talk) 23:09, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I fully agree with you !! If this page referred only to the Bangladeshi part, it should be titled 'Bangladeshi Sundarbans'. But since it doesn't, I had deleted the disambiguation template, which was met with a strong protest, and I was even accused of edit warring. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 14:01, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for reverting to the pre dispute version, Gotitbro! I had placed the map -- now in the Geography section -- into the box to show that the Sundarbans span the delta in both India + Bangladesh. So I suggest to replace the pic showing sun by this map + move the pic to a different section. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 08:24, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

Unsourcced sections
Anyone interested in improving that sections that are still devoid of cites and sources? Aditya (talk • contribs) 05:25, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Social science
Write some important features of sundar ban delta

🤔 49.14.114.33 (talk) 14:34, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Satellite picture depicts wrong region
The SPOT satellite image depicts a non-forested region directly to the east of the Sundarbans as can be seen by comparison with the map at the top of the article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sundarbans#/media/File:সুন্দরবনের_মানচিত্র.svg

This explains why the satellite image captures a terrain mostly devoid of the green mangrove forests that appear clearly in the second Landsat image, which correctly captures the forest. 173.2.127.90 (talk) 07:27, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

To add to article
In order to help make it more properly encyclopedic, shouldn't we add a mention of the fact that cholera has been a problem in the Sundarbans since 1817? 98.123.38.211 (talk) 02:42, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

Unable to edit this article
I was going to add a wikilink to this article, but was prevented from doing so because it appears to be locked from editing. Please fix this ridiculous situation! 98.123.38.211 (talk) 02:43, 10 April 2024 (UTC)