Talk:Sunnyvale Town Center

Nearby developments
Development of nearby properties, such as Solstice, isn't strictly relevant to the subject of this article. I propose that it be removed. Grover cleveland (talk) 21:34, 3 May 2014 (UTC)


 * I see your point, and I could go either way. But most people who visit downtown and see the construction and shops may not make that distinction, since it's literally across the street from the "border" of the Town Center, and since both sides now have equal height that stands out and gives it a common look and feel.  Whoever added it clearly marked it as "Nearby" - doesn't that give it some relevance and distinction?


 * I didn't revert your edit, but I'm not sure it should stand. JGriffithSV (talk) 23:15, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

July Action
Just a clarification on the July vote. It says that the Redwood Square 2-story buildings would "no longer be built". That's sort of true, sort of misleading. For now, that steel frame is going to come down and some open space developed. But the long-term intent is to develop a new plan for that chunk of land, which may very well involve a new 2-story building. I'm not sure if this is a point worth clarifying. JGriffithSV (talk) 18:31, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't think it is until the new plan comes out and the press writes it up. (Anyone should feel free to update the article then, by the way; I have unbelievable problems getting the Sunnyvale Sun these days). As it is the article doesn't specify how many apartments, what kind of stores and restaurants where, or anything like that, since there have been almost no press statements of specifics: what gets done with that part of the development is part of that evolution. Yngvadottir (talk) 19:53, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Well, rather than depending on press releases, couldn't we just depend on the City's report to the Successor Agency, which contains a lot of this information? It's an official public record.  The kinds of stores or restaurants haven't been determined.  But the number of housing units has been set (292), the amount of retail space, etc.  The specifics can be found on page 11 of this city document: https://sunnyvaleca.legistar.com/View.ashx?M=F&ID=4542391&GUID=C0B4E7C2-018C-4BA6-AE8F-EB7588D8D553.  The rest of it can be found here: https://sunnyvaleca.legistar.com/LegislationDetail.aspx?ID=2772220&GUID=DC4365EE-F00C-4DE9-BF25-56C2B7236C91&Options=&Search=&FullText=1.  The main link has a site map showing the first and second story layouts of the site - no specific store names, but the category of land use is provided.  JGriffithSV (talk) 06:24, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm confused between the "minimum" requirements and the projected eventual extent of the development, and I suspect everyone reading the press coverage is, too. Also we should use secondary sources whenever possible - rather than press releases, what the press writes up. So I've added those two as external links after the city's overview page on the project, which I had thought about looking for and adding earlier. I'm thinking that city page will get updated as the project gets built and as updated decisions are made, such as how big the hotel is actually going to be. Thanks for those links! Yngvadottir (talk) 16:37, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it's a confusing topic - and I have to actually vote on it. The minimum project is the minimum required to be completed by the specified date for the developer to not be in breach.  It's what the city accepts as the worst case scenario.  In reality, the developer paid all cash, owns adjacent properties, and intends to own and operate the Town Center when it's finished.  So they're highly motivated to get it done much more quickly.  So people are seeing "oh no, it won't even get finished until 2020!" Well, no.  The parts they care about the most will likely be done two years before then (first-story retail, housing, grocer/theater).  But there are three chunks of land with no specific plans yet (Macy's parking lot, area next to Bank of the West, and now Redwood Square).  The plans for those three will take longer to develop and build, and that will happen while the rest of the project is being finished.JGriffithSV (talk) 18:56, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

Images
Someone uploaded and added to the article an image of the apartments on the north edge of the mall site, which are now called The Flats, I believe. I found what I have from the last days of the mall building, created a category on Commons, and replaced the infobox picture. There used to be interiors shot through the doors at velhartis.com/sunnyvale, but they've been taken down. Posting this here to jog anyone who was local when the mall was still in operation; I can't believe no one photographed it. Yngvadottir (talk) 06:19, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

Splitting proposal
Sunnyvale Town Center and CityLine Sunnyvale are two different things. CityLine Sunnyvale should probably be its own article because once the project is done, there would be no reason to have it in the Sunnyvale Town Center article. Also it would be very confusing to see that what seems like an article talking about a defunct mall is mostly talking about a new development there. Cork12 02:17, 27 March 2023 (UTC)