Talk:Sunriver, Oregon

Advert
I believe Sunriver deserves an article, but the way it's written now, it's pretty much a big advertisement. Katr67 02:42, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

I think the real question is... Is the article about Sunriver Resort the business or Sunriver resort the community. I think for a wiki and in the best interest of the public, it should be about Sunriver resort as a whole community. This gives the reader the broadest understanding of what Sunriver the resort has to offer. For example, the Sunriver resort community has 23 tennis courts but only 3 are owned by Sunriver Resort the business. Shaylor 09:03, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

What is Sunriver, legally?
There's something really mysterious about Sunriver that I hope someone can clear up. This article and the referenced Sunriver HOA web page indicate that Sunriver is legally a condominium community. Yet it appears to have a police force, with police powers. I read an Associated Press article dated March 3 2007 that implies that Sunriver has sworn police officers that can do such things as arrest people. Police powers have to be given by the state, and normally are given only to employees of cities recognized by the state. Does Oregon consider Sunriver a city? The AP article says Sunriver is not incorporated as a city. Bryan Henderson 21:42, 4 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Here is a version of that AP article (what brought me here). Also, I propose that this article and Sunriver Resort be merged.  If needed, one entity can be part the bigger entity's article. Jason McHuff 05:24, 5 March 2007 (UTC)


 * It's confusing. At least to me, and I've spent a lot of time there.  See several viewpoints at the discussion at Talk:Sunriver Resort.  —EncMstr 06:05, 5 March 2007 (UTC)


 * sunriver is in a "special service district" which in oregon law is basically allowed to do a whole rash of things without much in the way of further governance, while incorporated towns can conversely have a massive level of bureaucracy and still not support police or fire etc.-- moving to oregon from vermont (where there is a strong town-level government) I was also confused for a long time at what was and was not a town or city or hamlet etc. basically everyone has to pay to the county, and then you can start adding on top of that for increased services, so you can add for only what you want as a district. So you can pay for better roads but no fire, or better fire and no extra police, etc. Some areas in eastern deschutes county do not have any fire coverage, from a rural district and they are not in the state coverage program either, and this land literally has no fire protection at all, even though there are houses and other things on it. Some of it is US 20, and when a semi caught fire a couple years ago, the state police had to simply let it burn to the ground by the side of the road, because no fire district would take responsibility for it.


 * Essentially Sunriver, the special service district, pays for extra police, fire, EMS, and road service. However this only covers a certain portion of the area known as sunriver (north of the new rotary). other areas, commonly thought of as sunriver, like the business park and essentially the entire south side of the area, do not receive this extra coverage and are in the LaPine fire and EMS districts, and receive regular county sheriff and road service. So even though the gas station is only a half mile from the resort, the two have wildly differing levels of public services. Compounding this confusion is the fact that the whole larger Sunriver area (SSD and unincorporated) has its own elementary school and post office, but shares its ZIP code and school district with Bend, 15 miles away. 72.0.180.2 (talk) 08:13, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Merge Discussion
There seems to be a lot of duplication between these two articles (like most of the history section). Also, to most people these two topics are one and the same. I'd propose that the Sunriver Resort article become a section of this one. --Maelwys 00:37, 8 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Merge: Trying to separate the subtopics will be difficult in any meaningful sense.  Best to merge them into one article and, if needed, compare and contrast them there.  —EncMstr 00:49, 8 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Oppose: I do not think the articles should be merged. Most of Sunriver is not owned or managed by the resort. Inside Sunriver there are many other organizations and businesses. The largest of issues that should be considered are that the Sunriver Village has nothing to do with the resort. Other issues should include the five or so other property management companies, the Sunriver Owners Association and SilverStar Destinations who recently purchased the Sunriver Village. The majority of confusion here stems from the history and the use of the word "resort". As a whole Sunriver is a "resort community". Also there is a company inside Sunriver named "Sunriver Resort". There is a substantial difference. The company "Sunriver Resort" who's business name is 'Sunriver Resort Limited Partnership' was registered with the state of Oregon in 1993. The company has skewed the history of the resort community in a marketing effort to make it seam as though they are the only destination in Sunriver. Shaylor 10:57, 5 February 2008 (UTC)


 * oppose- the two are fairly different and it is true that only a small percentage of "stuff" north of Vandevert and south of Cottonwood is owned by sunriver corp or whatever they are called. 72.0.180.2 (talk) 08:13, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

"Several"
The word "several" is used three times in rapid sucession. Besides being redundant, it's not very specific. Can we get some solid numbers and remove a couple "severals"? Katr67 17:04, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the cleanup. Never having been there, I didn't feel like I could say for sure if any of those things were actually "many", and I didn't feel like looking it up. :) Katr67 17:54, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

"Classification"
Sunriver, OR is an actual town, but since its primarily a resort, most people get confused. The resort owns and operates a vast majority of the vicinity, true, but there are plenty of other public homes and businesses that service the "normal" people. 216.161.254.69 (talk) 03:48, 30 April 2008 (UTC)