Talk:Super Bowl XLI/Archive 1

Teams
Is it now appropriate to edit the article about the teams playing in Super Bowl XLI? (Indianapolis Colts vs. Chicago Bears)?

I'm assuming that what is displayed now is a joke. "Winning team = Bears" "Losing team = Colts"

Kickoff time
This article should include, preferably in the fact box, a listing of the anticipated time of kickoff, if known. I see the articles shows that game coverage starts at 6:25... but after you announce the teams, the starting players, the coaches, the honorary captains, the game officials, the coin toss officials, the water boys, etc. etc... does anyone know what time they actually expect to kick off?!! 12.147.193.6 18:15, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

I agree. I am confused on kick-off time as well. Can someone clarify? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.111.84.3 (talk • contribs)


 * The advertised start time by the TV and the NFL is 6:00. Then, following all the ceremonial wathavya, the actual kickoff is 6:25 p.m.&mdash;Twigboy 21:52, 26 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Can this be added? I second 12.147.193.6's desire to see it in the fact box, in addition to mentioning it in the summary. I'm sure many people, like myself, will be checking this page today to see what time it starts. Morganiq 19:44, 4 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I went ahead and added this. Forgot that I could edit if logged in. Morganiq 20:48, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Cirque?
Cirque Du Soleil is listed as a reported pregame entertainment, but the only source is a ticket website and absent from CDS and NFL websites. It is also unclear, if this is true, if CDS would be the in-stadium pregame show, or if they are performing around the week-long events that are tied into the Super Bowl. I have not been able to find any other reputable source on this. &mdash;Twigboy 05:37, 3 January 2007 (UTC)


 * And I stand corrected . Since this is an official source, I will replace the ticket website reference with the NFL reference. &mdash;Twigboy 02:25, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

THE TEAMS ARE UNDETERMINED AS OF YET
I don't know if anyone noticed but it says New England is playing New Orleans, last I checked they still had to play the NFC and AFC Championship games before they dtermined who the teams playing are.


 * Someone has been vandilizing the page.--CWY2190 22:53, 19 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Well it's settled now, and the Patriots aren't going 22:22, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Semi protect
Now!!! even for just now!!!DPM 03:27, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Um.. Can somebody remove the 'Nigga Bowl XLI lmbo ' from the trivia section...

Perhaps they should refer it as "Super Bowl I-65" in the trivia section. Just my .02 Kimmy78 04:15, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Well it would probably be the "I-65 Bowl". Although I-65 just goes to Gary, but whatever. Find a news story calling it that and we can use it in the Wikipedia article. --W.marsh 04:19, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Acutally Superbowl 41 is good for 2 reasons:

it's the 41st superbowl

US 41 runs along the indiana/illinois state line, and it goes from the southwest corner of indiana all the way to the north side of chicago 12.145.184.6 20:18, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Trivia
This is the first time that the Colts have made the Super Bowl since winning it in 1970, 37 years ago.

This is the first time in 21 years that the Chicago Bears have made the Super Bowl. They last made it in 1985, when they won it after a near perfect season (ironically losing to the Miami Dolphins, the only team to achieve a perfect season).

African American Coaches
Why is this such a big deal? Most football teams are very mixed, and it almost seems condescneding to make race and issue for the coach of a football team. There aren't many black kickers, so should we celebrate if a black kicker makes it to the Super Bowl? I think America should get past making race an issue.


 * Race is NOT an issue. However, they are being acknowledged as being the first African American coaches.  After this game, I'll expect the irrelevance of whether the next Super Bowl will have an African American coach again. KyuuA4 00:10, 23 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Not the right time to bring up this debate. If it's a true fact, then it should be sourced and referenced.  If not, then leave it alone.  King Zeal 13:23, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Actually, BET has a little discussion going on the importance of African American coaches getting to the SB. Here's the link:

And here's one from ESPN about the history of black coaches in the NBA and MLB championships. 

While it sucks that my Patriots lost to Indy of all teams, I have big respect for black people who make it big, being of color myself. Posse out!--Aaronhumes 15:02, 22 January 2007 (UTC)


 * agreed. Race will no longer be an issue only when people stop making an issue out of race. What's next? The Superbowl: So easy even a caveman can do it!? The liberal left in this country has all of us divided into neat little hypenated cliques, so that they have that warm and fuzzy feeling and a guilt free conscience (mostly for opposing the end of slavery,:: which they did, and segregated schools, which they did) when a non-supressed group gets good press.


 * Go Colts! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.145.184.6 (talk) 20:22, 22 January 2007 (UTC).

I think this is enough to mention in a trivia section, but not the introduction. I don't think the word "both" should be italicized as though it's the tremendous thing that will bring peace and harmony to American society or something. DavidMann 22:46, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm not buyin' that it'll stop being an issue when people stop talking about it. That's what people do with gay guys - stop talking about it, but the prejudice remains. Fact is, football is a sport which has been dominated by white owners, white coaches and white quarterbacks. Blacks were only allowed to be big, stereotypical linemen. Then they were acknowledged for athletic prowess, but only now, finally, do we start to see the sport acknowledge by HIRING practices, that black men can THINK, lead, plan, etc. I'm not saying I agreed with the prejudicial positions, but it IS a landmark to have this opportunity for success allowed to a black man. NOT recognizing it would be artificial. Nice job on the rephrasing, btw, about how it guarantees that a black coach will win the SB.:) --JT 04:28, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Bottom line. Both Dungy and Smith are being regarded as "Coaches". Not Black coaches. Not African-American coaches. The best aspect of sport is the ability to look beyond race - as accolade is more important. KyuuA4 01:06, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Beyonce
Who keeps adding Beyonce to the halftime performers? I've done several Google searches and found nothing. Plus, she isn't mentioned in any commercials. Could a source be provided? -- Scorpion 16:46, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I have NOT been the one trying to put it back in, but I did notice this ONE website that has it listed.


 * http://hollisterfreelance.com/lifestyles/contentview.asp?c=205224&siteID=33
 * 5. Prince (or the artist formerly known as the artist formerly known as Prince) is the half-time entertainment. Now I don't really have anything against Prince, but let's face some facts. He's a skinny little guy who wears more makeup than I do. A wardrobe malfunction from Prince isn't going to be nearly as exciting as one from Janet Jackson. On the other hand, Beyonce is going to be Prince's special guest for the half-time entertainment. I don't think Beyonce is the type to flash America her stars, but I'm positive that the beer drinking, nacho-scarfing men at your Super Bowl party will sit closer to the TV during half-time just in case.


 * The only problem is, it's very vague, and isn't supported anywhere else. It could be that whoever wrote that got it off of this very Wikipedia page.


 * This news article states that Shaq is hosting a Super Bowl party on Feb 1, and that Beyonce is expected to be there, leading to the assumption that she will actually be in Miami for the weekend, and thus there's a realistic chance that she would be at the game. Still not enough to be considered a clear source. http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/sfl-spsupertalk01feb01,0,6145590.story?coll=sfla-sports-headlines Doctorindy 22:10, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Web site compromised
The Dolphin Stadium website has been reported as compromised, with a keylogger installed on the victims' computers. http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=15&tag=nl.e589 http://www.websense.com/securitylabs/alerts/alert.php?AlertID=733

209.184.36.173 21:15, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Odds
I remember reading that the odds were either 7 or 6.5 to the Colts, never higher than seven. I read it off that source right next to the odds number on the article. -- ROASTY TOAST  04:23, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Fixed --W.marsh 17:24, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Protection
We kept the SB article unprotected for the most part last year, and it worked out okay. I assumed we'd be doing that again this year, and only semi-protecting if it gets out of hand, most likely right after the game ends (which is when I've seen the surge worst on articles like 2006 World Series). I can practically guarantee there will be multiple admins sitting on this article during the game. --W.marsh 16:15, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
 * As of now, 17:52, 4 February 2007 (UTC), the article is currently under semiprotection. I do not think it is wise, much like the TFA and other potential high-traffic articles, to have it under semi-protection, or even full protection when the game is underway. Of course, after the game is a different story. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 17:52, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I also question the reason why it was semiprotected under the comment, "Keeping this page protected until the Super Bowl has passed and the vandals have left." WP:SPP clearly states that semi-protection should not be used, "As a preemptive measure against vandalism before any vandalism has occurred." In my opinion, there was not enough IP anon vandalism before the smeiprotection to warrant it. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 18:14, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I won't rule out semi-protecting briefly if vandalism gets to an unmanageable level, which it probably will at some point, but protecting preemptively for the whole day is not a good idea, in my opinion. I suggest we unprotect for now. --W.marsh 18:58, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
 * This message was left on my talk page by the admin who semiprotected the article. However, I do think it should be unprotected, at least before kickoff. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 19:25, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

I went ahead and unprotected... we'll see what happens. --W.marsh 19:55, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Pregame entertainment
The official Superbowl web page states that over 50 professional entertainers will be performing as part of this year's pregame show. Does anyone know where the complete list of pregame show entetainers may be found? I guess I am not able to edit the main page, but I would like to note the following:

STEVIE NICKS AND WADDY WACHTEL WILL BE PERFOMING AS PART OF THIS YEAR'S PREGAME SHOW...ONE OF THEIR NUMBERS IS TO BE BROADCAST ON CBS. IF THERE IS AN ESTABLISHED MEMBER THAT COULD POST THIS INFORMATION THAT WOULD BE GREAT!...THANKS!Donnarq1 17:18, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Can you link to the exact page you're talking about? I can only find which doesn't mention Nicks. --W.marsh 17:26, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

It wasn't a link..Waddy told folks at his regular Monday night show in L.A. Evidently "Stand Back" was aired on CBS a little before 1:30 PST


 * I can't find a list either. It's playing right now on my new TV (50") and I definetely see more than 75.  &Oslash;&#345;  &ecirc;   &#333;&#351;  22:53, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

International - United Kingdom
I can't edit this because it is a protected page, but please can someone add the United Kingdom to the list of internation broadcasters?

Broadcasting on ITV1, Sky Sports 1, and Sky Sports HD 1 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 87.81.240.93 (talk) 21:26, 4 February 2007 (UTC).
 * It's already in the article. John Reaves (talk) 21:32, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Infobox
I replaced the subst'ed in infobox with the a non-substed version. This is in line with the boxes on all of the other recent bowl articles, and is MUCH easier for casusal editors to maintain. In doing so, some information not historically presented in this box was removed. See this diff for the information. Some of it may be approriate in a section of the article if anyone wants to salvage it. Thank you, — xaosflux  Talk  00:01, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Xaos, you should call archive 1 "Pre-Game/Prelude". Real96 00:45, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Nah, I took the liberty to do so. Real96 02:35, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

International broadcast
The game is being broadcasted live in China by CCTV on its sport channel CCTV-5. Can someone please add this to the article since its protected?
 * ✅ John Reaves (talk) 03:05, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Expected Vandalism?
I'm just going to take a wild guess that some of the drunk, internet-savvy NFL fans will be targeting this article, as well as the Colts, Bears, and Rex Grossman articles. Protected? Hojima chong  03:02, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Already is? John Reaves (talk) 03:03, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
 * It's already semi-protected. Considering it's a current events piece which will likely be checked out by many people, it should be open at least to registered users. Just because something is high profile doesn't mean it gets an automatic protect, for example, FAs are encouraged to be open. I mean, maybe someone will make a godless killing machines joke or something, but considering it's also being monitored by many editors any vandalism will be reverted faster than anyone notices it. It harms wikipedia more to prot it than to leave it open to vandals -- febtalk 03:10, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Can an admin protect this page?
Please? There is way too much vandalism occurring on here. (i.e. Bears vandal/Pope arrington vandal/etc.) Real96 02:01, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, Jaranda has done that. Real96 02:02, 5 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't understand why we protect it for like 10 minutes and then take it off, just to have to page vandalized again. Protection needs to stay on for all of tonight.--Surfaced 02:10, 5 February 2007 (UTC)


 * It is semi-protected. Abecedare 02:17, 5 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Umm, maybe I'm not seeing it (I'm trusting the edit summaries), but I only see one revert in the last hour. Being on the main page isn't a rationale for sprotection (see most FA pages, for example). There's certainly enough of us monitoring the article to obviate any attempt at vandalism. -Cmprince 02:56, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

(reduce indent) IP vandals were targeting the page per minute -- which is a high rate. The reason that you don't see any vandalism is because registered users are only allowed to edit. Enough users were monitoring the page, but the vandalism got out of hand, resulting in edit conflicts as well as vandal edits still existing on the page. Real96 03:18, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
 * My bad, I didn't see when the protect went on. Still doesn't look like it was that bad, but it's a judgment call. And I won't use a red hanky on this one :) Cmprince 03:24, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Lock Request
Can we please lock this page?? The Vandalism is getting ridiculous.

But I am a Colts fan! World Champs baby!!! w00t!! Soakologist 04:11, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

It's already semi-protected. While there is some light vandalism, given the high profile of this article, it should not be taken to The Wrong Version because editors can easily undo it, and we could get some valuable new contributors to wikipedia through it -- febtalk 04:15, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
 * It is NO LONGER semi-protected. I agree, this really needs to be semi-protected for a while. --Zimbabweed 04:20, 5 February 2007 (UTC)


 * agreed that this article should stay protected for the next day or so until this vandalism dies yuckfoo 04:41, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
 * It's been re-protected. John Reaves (talk) 04:43, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Myspace
Myspace has a page with all of the superbowl commercials. They have been promoting it and i figured it should be added to the page but it is protected so i can't. The site is http://www.myspace.com/superspots Rosario lopez 04:45, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Shift in tense
In the middle of the second paragraph of Broadcasting - United States, there is a shift in tense from past to future (undoubtedly from an incomplete edit) that seems very awkward. I'd change it myself, but I don't feel like exerting the energy to remember my password. 75.73.41.56 07:28, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Opening Paragraphs
In the third paragraph of the opening remarks, the Super Bowl Firsts statements are made, one being that Tony Dungy is the first African American head coach to win the Super Bowl. I added to this comment that this is the first Super Bowl to have two African American head coaches. This is a tie-in to the first statement and also a first. Metamorphousthe 14:37, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

I'd think that the bit on the first African American head coaches should probably go before the other firsts.

Trivia

 * This was the first time since Super Bowl XXXI that both participants won two playoff games at home. However, the Colts also had to win a third playoff game on the road (AFC divisional playoff at Baltimore).
 * At 164 miles apart, Chicago and Indianapolis are the geographically closest ever Super Bowl cities, narrowly edging out the 170 miles between Super Bowl XXXV participants Baltimore, Maryland and New York Giants (who actually play in East Rutherford, New Jersey).
 * The Indianapolis Colts held pre-game practices for Super Bowl XLI at the Miami Dolphins Training Facility on the campus of Nova Southeastern University in Davie, Florida.
 * The Chicago Bears held pre-game practices for Super Bowl XLI at the Miami Hurricanes Football Facility, on the campus of the University of Miami in Coral Gables, Florida.
 * Reintegrated into article. Butnotthehippo 16:20, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

*The NFL told a number of Indianapolis churches that they were not allowed to show the Super Bowl via big screen televisions to their Colts-fan parishoners, threatening legal action. Conversely, sports bars nationwide are allowed to show the game. This maneuver earned the NFL a "Worst Person in the World" silver on the February 2, 2007 edition of Countdown with Keith Olbermann. After that and other bad press, the NFL issued a statement that they did not object to churches hosting Super Bowl parties, so long as they did not charge admission and showed the game on "a television of the type commonly used at home".
 * The Chicago Bears had a curfew of midnight the week before Super Bowl XLI.

Reintegrated into article. KyuuA4 17:26, 5 February 2007 (UTC)


 * This is the first Super Bowl in history to have a touchdown run in on the opening kick off. It was the eighth kick return for a touchdown in a Super Bowl. In four Super Bowls played at Dolphin Stadium, all have had a kickoff returned for a touchdown. However, all kick returns for touchdowns were scored by the losing team.
 * Hester's score 14 seconds into the game was the quickest in a Super Bowl breaking the San Francisco 49ers' record of 1 minute, 24 seconds which they did in Super Bowl XXIX. That game was also played in Miami at Dolphin Stadium.
 * With Hester's touchdown, the Bears became the fourth team in Super Bowl history to score on the game's opening possession. Other teams to do so were: the Miami Dolphins in Super Bowl VIII, the 49ers in Super Bowl XXIX and the Green Bay Packers in Super Bowl XXXII.
 * Hester and Reggie Wayne became the first alumni of the same school to score the first two touchdowns in a Super Bowl. Both players went to the University of Miami.
 * Adam Vinatieri became the first kicker ever to play in five Super Bowls and win four Super Bowl rings. Vinatieri's three field goals and two extra points gave him a total of 49 points during the entire postseason, an NFL record.
 * Joseph Addai's 10 receptions tied a Super Bowl record for a running back. Miami's Tony Nathan had 10 in Super Bowl XIX.
 * Muhsin Muhammad, who also scored a touchdown as a member of the Carolina Panthers in Super Bowl XXXVIII, became the third player ever to score a touchdown in two different Super Bowls for two different teams, joining Ricky Proehl and Jerry Rice. Proehl scored one with the St. Louis Rams in Super Bowl XXXVI and one with the Panthers in XXXVIII while Rice scored seven while with the San Francisco 49ers in Super Bowls XXIII, XXIV and XXIX and scored one with the Oakland Raiders in Super Bowl XXXVII.
 * This was the first time that both teams scored touchdowns in the first quarter since Super Bowl XXXII. It was also the first time the NFC team scored a touchdown in the first quarter since that Super Bowl. That game pitted the Green Bay Packers against the Denver Broncos.
 * This was the third Super Bowl to have two players rush for more than 100 yards as Dominic Rhodes had 114 for the Colts and Thomas Jones had 113 for the Bears. The previous Super Bowls in which that happened were Super Bowl III (Matt Snell had 121 for the Colts and Tom Matte had 116 for the New York Jets) and Super Bowl XXV (Ottis Anderson had 102 for the New York Giants and Thurman Thomas had 135 for the Buffalo Bills.
 * Tony Dungy is the third man to win the Super Bowl as a coach as well as a player (with the Pittsburgh Steelers in Super Bowl XIII), following Tom Flores (Super Bowl IV as the backup quarterback with the Kansas City Chiefs and coaching the Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders in Super Bowls XV and XVIII) and Mike Ditka (Super Bowl VI with the Dallas Cowboys and coaching the Bears in XX). Dungy also became the first African-American coach to win the Super Bowl.
 * Vinatieri was given the honor to call the coin-toss. Adam called "Tails". It turned out to be "Heads" and the Colts lost the toss. The NFC won the coin toss for the 10th straight Super Bowl (dating back to Super Bowl XXXII). They are 2-8 in those games and have lost the last four.
 * With this game, every division in the NFL has been represented in the Super Bowl since the 2002 realignment.
 * The Colts became the second franchise to win the Super Bowl in two different cities winning Super Bowl V, held in Miami as the Baltimore Colts, joining the Raiders, who won Super Bowl XI and XV in Oakland, and XVIII in Los Angeles, and the third to play in two different cities, joining the aforementioned Raiders and the Rams (Super Bowl XIV in Los Angeles, and Super Bowls XXXIV and XXXVI in St. Louis.)

Game summery
The game summary needs work. First, "His return was so impressive that the Colts decided to squib kick their kickoffs for the rest of the game to keep the ball out of his hands." is incorrect (and poorly worded - impressive?) - after the first squib kick, Hester was moved up by the Bears - the Colts then kicked it deep. I'll try to fix it but am short on time. &mdash; Zaui (talk) 16:21, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I am just confirming this was the case. In general, the Colts special teams tried to keep the ball away from Hester for the rest of the game.  The Bears special teams moved hester up and confused even Jim Nantz who thought he wasn't in on the return. 68.103.207.65 18:51, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Looks good now. &mdash; Zaui (talk) 21:10, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Driving rainstorm? Not to this local.
Since I live right near the stadium, and video evidence also shows that the rain was a drizzle, I find it strange that it is not only written as a "driving rainstorm", but that my edit was reverted back to the original incorrect information. Rather than get into an edit war over a trivial detail, I will ask others' opinion as to whether that game was played and whether Prince was standing in a drizzle or a driving rainstorm. CodeCarpenter 18:49, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
 * As a Kansas resident, I've heard a lot of terms for weather. However, I have never heard of a "driving" rainstorm.   A google search for the term, in quotes, tells me that it is used sporadically but surely there is a better term.  68.103.207.65 18:55, 5 February 2007 (UTC)


 * "Driving rain" is a common expression. "Heavy rain" or "intense rain" might also be good choices. Steve Dufour 19:12, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
 * "Driving rain" is a fairly well known expression. I think it denotes rain that is being pushed, or "driven" by a heavy wind.Butnotthehippo 20:15, 5 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I also live near the stadium. At no point was there a "driving rain." It wasn't "pouring" or intense. I think the best bet may be to leave out an adjective all together and merely say "rain." Butnotthehippo 20:15, 5 February 2007 (UTC)


 * That's usually the best bet. └Jared ┘┌talk ┐&ensp; 01:44, 6 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I was at the actual game and it was definitely more than a drizzle. I'm sure other people who were at the game can attest to that.  Better yet, just read some of the interviews from the players.  A light drizzle would not have affected the game like that.

Botched extra point
Does the botched XP count as a 2-point attempt? NFL.com lists it as "A.Vinatieri extra point is Aborted, Center-J.Snow, Holder-H.Smith."... Js farrar 00:29, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes, it should count as a botched 2 pt attempt.
 * It does count as a failed 2 point attempt, according to NFL rules.JohnnyRush10 03:12, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

also, "This marked Adam Vinateri's first pre-season field goal miss in the 2006 season. ". THis is obviously not correct. this marks the first POST season miss.

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Broadcast
I'm a bit confused right now, since what I saw in Germany on NASN was an NFL Network presentation and not the CBS presentation. Did both stations show the SuperBowl - and why are Europeans forbidden from watching the CBS show? Maybe someone can shed some light on this... --212.34.171.12 10:03, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

In the US the NFL Network only did the pre-game and post-game shows. The actual game was broadcasted by CBS only.

Important Facts
I appreciate the article especially since it was made quickly, but don't forget to acknowledge the fact that Tony Dungy is the first African-American coach to win a superbowl.BlackIntellect 03:18, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Should make that point on his article as well as this one as well. Real96 03:35, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Participants who had appeared in previous editions
In my opinion, this article (and the other year-specific Super Bowl entries) should mention which participants had prior Super Bowl experience, like Adam Vinatieri, or Tony Dungy (as a player). -- ChaChaFut 17:34, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

news
Is it prominent enough on the main page? If the world cup soccer champ held sway for so long, this should be on for just as long. After all, Wikipedia is headquartered in Florida. --216.9.250.62 04:18, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
 * It'll basically be on the main page until 3-4 new stories or added, or 1 new sports story would probably bump it off. --W.marsh 15:04, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
 * world cup is bigger and a longer running event.Geni 19:01, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Prohibiting church display
This section makes no mention of why the NFL required churches to be bound by the same rules other organizations are bound to, nor does it present the opinion of those in favor of this position. It is written with a clear bias against the policy, and goes to lengths to show public disapproval of the policy. Jerimee 16:48, 6 February 2007 (UTC)


 * As to why, the answer is copyright law. I will include this into the article. The policy is not in dispute and did not change. The policy was, and is, churches cannot charge admission to watch the Super Bowl at parties. What happened was a misinterpretation of the policy and then a clarification of it. In the media there was an emphasis on the public disapproval of the policy. Thoughts? Butnotthehippo 22:18, 6 February 2007 (UTC)


 * It goes beyond just the admission charge. The NFL used an obscure part of copyright law to avoid lowering Nielsen ratings (which do not measure out-of-home use) which goes beyond the admission charge restriction. See, . &mdash;Twigboy 22:31, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Commercials
Snickers Ad of Men Accidentally Kissing Pulled After Complaints From Gay Groups

HACKETTSTOWN, N.J. — A commercial for Snickers candy bars launched in the Super Bowl broadcast was benched after its maker got complaints that it was homophobic. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,250575,00.html Crocoite 23:44, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

200 countries?
The article says it was broadcast in more than 200 countries. How is this possible if there are only ~192 countries in the world? 207.203.80.14 22:45, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually there are 243 countries. John Reaves (talk) 23:02, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I guess it depends on what you consider a country, but that does resolve it. Thanks. 207.203.80.14 15:48, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Prince halftime show.
the following phrase is technically true "... Creedence Clearwater Revival hit "Proud Mary", the Bob Dylan composition "All Along The Watchtower"... ", however, I believe the intent (due the the style of both snippets) was the recall the Ike and Tina Turner version of Proud Mary, and the Jimi Hendrix version of All Along the Watchtower. I am not sure how to incoprorate this without it getting awkward ("Proud Mary, with a second female singer, to evoke the Ike and Tina Turner version of the CCR song", etc). But it does read wrong to me just noting the authors and not the most popular covers of both songs. CodeCarpenter 16:23, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Controversy Sprouts Over Prince's Super Bowl Halftime Show

NEW YORK —  In the sensitive post-wardrobe malfunction world, some are questioning whether a guitar was just a guitar during Prince's Super Bowl halftime show. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,250581,00.html Crocoite 22:25, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

We Will Rock You?

The article claims that part of the set included "We Will Rock You". I don't remember that being in the set.

First gay referee trivia item is probably a joke
When I first read that the line judge was the first openly gay referee, I was like, "Oh, that's nice." Then I remembered this is Wikipedia and noticed it was unsourced. Yeah, that does not appear to be true. I added a {fact} tag, but it probably needs deleted, unless somebody knows something I don't... --Jaysweet 23:41, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Ironic?
I'm not the the "twist of irony" is clear in this pargraph: "One ad that drew criticism from the gay community was for the Snickers candy bar featuring two men accidentally "kissing" each other after sharing the product in question, then proceeded to rip chest hairs as a manly act. The ad was killed the next day by Masterfoods USA, Mars, Incorporated's snack food division and three other versions were deleted from the snickers.com web site. In a twist of irony, that ad was ninth in the USA Today ad survey." Chaz! 17:51, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree, there is nothing even slightly ironic about that. The fact that it was 9th in the ad survey is interesting and I'm going to leave that, but I'm going to delete the "twist of irony" clause.  --Jaysweet 23:43, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Booing Mushlin muhammed
Shouldn't the racist heckling of the Bears player Muhammed when he was announced in the stadium or whenever he touched the ball be mentioned in this article? --90.192.92.142 01:37, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Racist? I would highly doubt that the booing was "racist", but everyone just hates the Bears :P. It's a football game, I think the boos were just part of the normal course of crowd noisemaking. Hojima  chong  05:24, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I know this sounds like a lame joke, but it isn't. They weren't saying "boooooo" they were saying "mooooooooosh". --W.marsh 05:32, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
 * You have got to be kidding me. "Racist heckling?" Are you crazy? His name is Muhsin Muhammad. Moo Moo. Mooooooo. Anybody who's ever watched a moment of sports in their lives understand this phenomenon. What is a greater insult is spelling his name incorrectly (said the Pats fan). <font style="color:white;font-size:105%">JHMM13  [[Image:Lion of Venice.jpg|26px| ]] 08:06, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
 * What's funny is you spelled the player's name right, but the original poster didn't. Zing! --208.44.234.50 22:25, 8 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I take it from your comment that you've never been to a Bears game in Chicago. When he gets on the field or otherwise, we tend to chant "MOOSE" because that his nickname.208.44.234.50 22:23, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Pictures
We need nore pics here. 70.22.38.231 02:00, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Seconded. Anyone have a picture of Prince's musical phallus? I was in the bathroom when that happened. ;_; &quot;Do what you can, with what you have, where you are.&quot; 23:55, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Adam Viniteri is not the first person to win 4 superbowls
Joe montana won 4, and everyone knows it.
 * It says "Adam Vinatieri became the first kicker..." I didn't know Joe Montana was a kicker... --W.marsh 01:36, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Score at the top
Can someone edit the score in the opening paragraph? It reads 400-399. The actual final score was 29-17. It's an odd choice of vandalism


 * Just saw a few moments ago "0-117".


 * AppleMacReporter 01:53, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Pics pics pics
Where are the pics? if no one gets a pd, cc or gdfl pic, then I'll have to upload some copyrighted ones. haha --– <font style="border: solid 1.5px #63B8FF; background-color: #D0E7FF"> Emperor Walt er Humala  · <font color="#00AA88">( talk? ·  help! ) 21:18, 11 March 2007 (UTC)


 * None of the recent Superbowl pages have pics. I don't know how you would even get a non-copyrighted one...  I mean, I think even the freakin' game summary technically violates NFL copyrights (although I think they'd have an awfully hard time getting that to stand up in court).
 * I suppose we could have a picture of some Wikipedians at a Superbowl party ;D --Jaysweet 19:44, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

GA Review Passed
Congratulations; this article has passed its Good Article nomination review. I've posted initial comments, an item-by-item review, and suggestions for future improvement to the article.

Initial comments :
 * Well-written introduction
 * The references are outstanding, and well formatted to boot. Excellent work!
 * Text has been copyedited and the prose is great
 * It seems like just about anything you wanted to know about this particular Super Bowl is on this page..wow!


 * GA review (see here for criteria)


 * 1) It is reasonably well written.
 * a (prose): b (MoS):
 * 1) It is factually accurate and verifiable.
 * a (references): b (citations to reliable sources):  c (OR):
 * 1) It is broad in its coverage.
 * a (major aspects): b (focused):
 * 1) It follows the neutral point of view policy.
 * Fair representation without bias:
 * 1) It is stable.
 * No edit wars etc.:
 * 1) It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
 * a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass/Fail:
 * 1) It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
 * a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
 * 1) Overall:
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While there aren’t any specific issues that prevent this article from meeting GA requirements, there are several small improvements that would be helpful as the article works it way towards FA status.

Suggestions for future improvement :
 * In the last sentence of the “Chicago Bears” section, stick the word “including” before listing the special teams players who made the Pro Bowl, as in, “This unit sent three players to the Pro Bowl, including special teams ace….”
 * In the first sentence of the “Indianapolis Colts” section, write out the number nine, as in, “…nine year long….” In general, it’s best to type out numbers ten and under, and there are other instances of this later on in the article.
 * References #2 & #3 should at least have the websites where they come from in their citations. Also add a retrieval date for them; just make it the day you add in the website publisher.
 * Some of the web articles cited don’t have their authors listed in the citations, like references #6 & #30, for example. I realize that not all web sources have authors listed, but these particular ones do, so I imagine there are other citations like this as well.
 * It appears references #42 and #44 are broken links. If the websites that previously hosted these pages have removed them from their site, it’s no big deal, but you might as well double check to make sure the address link is correct. If not, consider finding alternative references for the cited information.
 * Consider quoting some of the participating players or coaches using quote boxes. It would be a great way to break up the text of sections that don’t have any pictures or stats boxes in them.
 * Un-wikilink “Fall Creek Baptist Church” as the page hasn’t been created, and the red link is distracting to readers.

To anyone else reading this review, please consider reviewing an article or two at GAN to help with our current backlog of nominations. Thanks for your contribution to Wikipedia thus far, and I hope you continue to improve the article all the way up to FA status. Monowi (talk) 07:03, 17 January 2008 (UTC)