Talk:Surya Das/Archive 1

Neutrality
I dont see why it needs a disputed neutrality tag. Lets see what it says

Lama Surya Das is an American-born lama in the tradition of Tibetan Buddhism, an author of popular works on Buddhism,
 * So far nothing but facts

and a respected teacher of Buddhism in the United States.
 * ok so there are degrees of respect. I am pretty sure a lot of American Buddhists respect him. Probably some dont. That's pretty much how it is for lamas!

Born Jeffrey Miller, and raised on Long Island, Lama Surya Das later spent many years in India and Tibet studying with Tibetan lamas including H.H. Dalai Lama, Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche, Kalu Rinpoche, H.H. 16th Karmapa.
 * Looks like fact.

He is the dharma heir of Nyoshul Khenpo Rinpoche, a teacher in the Rime movement.
 * Ok could be controversial, but where is anyone arguing about this

In the 1990s Lama Surya Das created the Dzogchen Foundation to further the spread of Tibetan Buddhism in the West.
 * Looks like a fact

In 2003, at the request of Nyoshul Khenpo Rinpoche, he founded Dzogchen Osel Ling as a sanctuary, hermitage, and lineage seat in Austin, Texas. Lama Surya Das also travels and teaches throughout the United States.
 * Anyone seriously dispute this?

So unless someone comes up with some article in the press disputing any of this, why dont we just drop the Neutrality disputed tag? Billlion 6 July 2005 22:04 (UTC)


 * This article used to be heavily non-neutral, but it no longer is.  The only thing close to 'point-of-view' in the article is the word 'respected',  which is hardly egregious.  If this is changed to 'renowned',  no-one could make any case for non-neutrality. User: D.R. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.109.195.230 (talk • contribs)


 * OK I am removing the Neutrality disputed tag (by the way DR you can sign properly by putting four tildes after your comment) Billlion 19:54, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

Name
Anyone know why he has a Hindu name? I've always wondered.~Syl —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sylvain1972 (talk • contribs)
 * He might just consider it to be a Sanskrit or Pali name or something like that, and not actually consider it to be "Hindu". Also, he studied under Dzogchen monks among Tibetan communities in India, so his given or chosen title perhaps reflects a local or cultural influence. User:Le Anh-Huy


 * Apparently he studied with the Hindu teacher Neem Karoli Baba, who gave him the Sanskrit name Surya Das, meaning "Servant (das) of the Sun (surya)." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.60.200.170 (talk) 12:58, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Requested move 23 May 2014

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The result of the move request was: not moved. Jenks24 (talk) 15:59, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Surya Das → Lama Surya Das – Full Buddhist title (as compared to birth name Jeffrey Miller) Earflaps (talk) 22:44, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

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 * Oppose per WP:HONORIFIC: see Yoga Journal March April 1993 - plain "Although Surya Das recognized Maharaji as his first guru, his spiritual passion remained primarily with Tibetan " In ictu oculi (talk) 23:53, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Oppose if you are contending that "Lama Surya Das" is a Buddhist title, and not just "Lama", then Lama Surya Das should not be about a single person at all, it should be about the title. If you are just adding the title "Lama" to the name "Surya Das", then that fails HONORIFIC. -- 65.94.171.126 (talk) 06:03, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

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Something left out?
In the article there is a quote that says "It is the and perfect nature of all things."[15]  Apparently something has been omitted from this sentence? The quote should either be fixed or removed. Invertzoo (talk) 13:42, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 31 May 2020
The article says that he is the “spokesperson for Buddhism in the west” and that indicates that he speaks for every Buddhist in the west which just is not true at all it is however only according to the citation in the book cited in endnotes of the article and needs to read “that according to (title of cited book) he is the spokesperson for Buddhism in the west”

Common readers will not even notice or check the citations they will simply take the article at face value that this man speaks for every Buddhist in the west and he does not even come close to that designation or title DarkMasterDru75 (talk) 11:11, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

The work in question is Eisenberg, Carol (August 12, 2004). "His Jewish mother calls him the Deli Lama". Newsday. DarkMasterDru75 (talk) 11:13, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
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