Talk:Suzanne Somers

Gay Icon Project
In my effort to merge the now-deleted list from the article Gay icon to the Gay icons category, I have added this page to the category. I engaged in this effort as a "human script", adding everyone from the list to the category, bypassing the fact-checking stage. That is what I am relying on you to do. Please check the article Gay icon and make a judgment as to whether this person or group fits the category. By distributing this task from the regular editors of one article to the regular editors of several articles, I believe that the task of fact-checking this information can be expedited. Thank you very much. Philwelch 22:15, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)


 * What does Gay icon have to do with Suzanne Somers? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.28.143.83 (talk) 05:30, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Gikon?
Perhaps because of her over the top public/stage image and her problems in life. Cherie Currie...Liza Minnelli...need I go on?

My real question: Why no mention on Suzanne's part in the Canadian show Mantrap?JBDay (talk) 22:47, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

So-called
The statement "so=called Wiley Protocol" is negative and reveals bias. The Wiley Protocol is a registered trademark. Please remove the "so=called." I cannot, I am COI. Neil Raden (talk) 23:50, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules: simple/complex 13:21, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

The American Cancer Society is concerned: Dr. Otis Brawley, the organization's chief medical officer says "We use current treatments because they've been proven to prolong life". This is a total LIE. The ACS and the NCI use methods that shrink tumors PERIOD. They base ALL cancer treatments on whether or not the shrink tumors NOT on extended life or quality of life. Do a search on Ralph Moss for the straight truth. Note also that the ACS and NCI have vested interests in the drug companies that are vehemently opposed to any cure or treatment that they cannot patent. Don't believe me, check both the ACS and NCI sites. You won't find one good word about any alternative cancer treatments. It took an act of congress to force the NCI to start looking into these alternatives. And the extension of life by the conventional, a month tops? Really? where as alternatives show years but by keeping their eyes, funding wallets and peer reviewed journals tightly closed, they BigMed reality dictators(and wikipidia) call this "science fact" because something has not been proven even though has not been unproven by demonstrating a scientific method that repeatedly fails. This is not science at all! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.228.72.177 (talk) 23:37, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Suzanne Somers and fluoride

 * This is copied from RS/N.

An IP has added the following to her article:


 * "Suzanne Somers is opposed to water fluoridation. The Malibu Times http://www.malibutimes.com/articles/2007/12/19/editorial/opinion/opinion1.txt

This information isn't surprising considering her attitude toward pseudoscience and fringe subjects. The question for this board is whether we can allow use of this source, which is a posting by her on a public internet forum under "editorial / opinion". It's probably her, but anyone could have written that. Shouldn't we find a better source documenting her attitude on the subject? I suspect we can. -- Brangifer (talk) 22:44, 4 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Her blog contains similar anti-fluoridation sentiments: http://www.suzannesomers.com/Blog/post/Water-Fluoridation-Get-the-Facts.aspx If I understand correctly, her blog is a RS for her own article, but nowhere else. Could we use this source instead? -- Brangifer (talk) 22:47, 4 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Her book has got to be a RS for her opinion. -- Brangifer (talk) 22:49, 4 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Done. -- Brangifer (talk) 22:56, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Deleted
I deleted the sentence "Thighmaster was one of the first products responsible for launching the infomercial concept.[citation needed]" since it had no citation and I don't think it is factual. I did a search on Infomercials and Thighmaster and infomercials have been around since the early 80's and she was doing these Thighmaster commercials after that.Mylittlezach (talk) 17:05, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

I seem to recall those "Thighmaster" commercials. --Nosehair2200 (talk) 01:07, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Arrested/Criminal history
I was wondering if there was a reason for no mention of her arrest in her younger days for check bouncing?

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/celebrity/television/suzanne-somers — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:2C7:101:83A9:F0D5:9C76:ADF6:A5B7 (talk) 09:31, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
 * WP:UNDUE.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 22:18, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Pay dispute
Fired for dsring to ask for a raise huh? Thats one waay of looking at it, the other is "Wanted more money per episode than she was currently getting per year" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.75.12.0 (talk) 06:15, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Casting couch
This might be a reliable source for expanding this article.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 07:58, 17 December 2016 (UTC)


 * https://books.google.com/books?id=bm_QuZUPP9IC&pg=PA102&dq=Suzanne+Somers
 * Tales from the Casting Couch
 * Phoenix Books, Inc.
 * ISBN 1597776424 9781597776424
 * 2601:646:201:57F0:358:38E8:C571:6D18 (talk) 20:42, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

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 * Suzanne Somers in Ina Soltani (2).jpg

Badly Written
Really, this Suzanne Somers article is dreadfully written: "... gives extra discussion to one specific approach, the "Wiley Protocol". Somers and T. S. Wiley, the originator of the Wiley Protocol, have been criticized for their advocacy of the Wiley Protocol. It really could use a rewrite, preferably by someone who can write. I'd do it myself if I was interested enough in the subject. Surely someone out there is? --Untold Millions (talk) 17:49, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Age
Is there a reason this article omits any mention of Somers' birthdate? It's information that's usually included in biographical articles.

I found other references that give her birthdate as October 16, 1946. Is there a dispute over this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:96D0:DF40:2899:6D25:DF6F:DEA1 (talk) 04:44, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Not sure why this was removed—I have restored her birthdate and added several reputable sources to corroborate it. --Drown Soda (talk) 14:53, 1 February 2022 (UTC)


 * , Thank you for adding citations when you restored the date of birth. I was the one who removed the then-unsourced date based on WP:DOB. Without a citation, there is no indication to a reader that the date of birth has been published by reliable sources. Eddie Blick (talk) 16:14, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Suzzane Somers died at age 77, not age 76. It is a subtle legal concept. You always attain your nexy year of age the day BEFORE your birthday, because that is the 365th day (or 366th day in a leap year) of that year of your life. Since she passed the day before her birthday, she lived a full 77 years. 2600:1700:9090:8CC0:542:764C:605B:CF4E (talk) 16:47, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

Cancer
As of Oct. 16, 2023 the article *claims* her cancer returned in July and she died in October. She'll be missed. But it is patently NOT TRUE that the cancer was absent in June and suddenly (re)appeared in July. I don't want to change the article now, but after a respectful period it should be corrected to say the return (or reappearance) of cancer was discovered or announced (which ever it was) in July. (very few cancers, probably none, are so aggressively growing that they kill the patient in 3 months (between the first cancerous cell and death, as contrasted with the *discovery* of various cancers and the patients succumbing - which is far more common (since some cancers are hard or nearly impossible to detect until they've reached late stage growth. This is especially true with patients over 65. Cancer is more aggressive and grows faster, usually, in younger patients, but I digress.)98.17.44.45 (talk) 08:01, 16 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Until proven otherwise, the article should stay as it is: she died in October; her cancer returned in July. No sources as of yet connect the two. Everyone's cancer treatments are different – some people die from treatment and yet their deaths are attributed to the disease. Who knows what actually caused her death? Wikipedia only reports what is made known, not speculations.  Wylie pedia  @ 12:59, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Agree. Would need expert commentary. Bon courage (talk) 14:13, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

Filmography items removed due to lack of citations
If anyone is interested in recovering any of these removed items by finding a source and adding the item plus a citation back into the article, here's the list:

Television

 * Mantrap (1971–1973)
 * Match Game (1977/PM) (1977)
 * Tattletales (1977)
 * Goodbye Charlie (1985)
 * The Simpsons – The Day the Violence Died (1996)
 * The Darklings (1999)
 * ShopNBC

Films

 * Billy Jack Goes to Washington (1977) as Party Girl
 * Totally Minnie (1988, TV movie) as Director
 * The Nutty Professor (1996) as Thighmaster Lady on TV (uncredited)

also removed some verbiage about 1990 television stuff, but it didn't seem particularly necessary and it's pretty out of place, but I think it's possible that some of it could be reworked into a better introduction of the Step by Step material.

Daniel Quinlan (talk) 03:38, 22 October 2023 (UTC)