Talk:Swamp Thing (1991 TV series)

Rename

 * The first episode aired as a Halloween special in 1990. Are there any suggestions for a new article name? --Meadyforzbs (talk) 20:02, 26 August 2011 (UTC)


 * I really hate to disappoint you with this, but the first episode didn't air as a Halloween special back in 1990; it aired on April 20, 1991. AdamDeanHall (talk) 23:36, 4 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Hmmmmm, I saw something just now that may be of use to both of you in ironing out this misunderstanding. According to one of the listed references, the pilot (called "The Un-Men Unleashed") debuted on Halloween, October 31, 1990.  Perhaps that is what is causing the confusion?  Maybe you can sort this out now. AzureCitizen (talk) 23:49, 4 November 2011 (UTC)


 * AzureCitizen is right, that's exactly what I'm talking about.--Meadyforzbs (talk) 23:03, 5 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Are you gonna leave the original airdate, April 20, 1991, as it is on the page? AdamDeanHall (talk) 22:35, 7 November 2011 (UTC)


 * The first step here is to get some sort of agreement and consensus on just exactly what the "original air date" is. Is that the first date (chronologically) that any episode of the series aired?  Or is it something else?  AzureCitizen (talk) 22:48, 7 November 2011 (UTC)


 * April 20, 1991 is the first date that the episode ("To Live Forever") aired on Fox. Is this reason enough? AdamDeanHall (talk) 00:48, 8 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Don't you mean the episode "The Un-Men Unleashed" instead of "To Live Forever"? AzureCitizen (talk) 01:12, 8 November 2011 (UTC)


 * No. I mean the episode "To Live Forever". AdamDeanHall (talk) 16:22, 8 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Somehow you've gotten confused then, as "To Live Forever" is definitely not the first episode (plus it didn't air until April 27, 1991). Take a look at the article, do you see that "The Un-Men Unleashed" aired as the first episode? AzureCitizen (talk) 16:28, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

Now look at the [http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~ishtar/faq2.htm#8.6. third reference] listed in the article, the link points to this:

This is why Meadyforzbs is contending that the first episode, "The Un-Men Unleashed", first aired on October 31st, 1990 instead of later re-airing on April 20, 1991. AzureCitizen (talk) 01:59, 10 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Actually, the episode on April 20, 1991 was "To Live Forever", not a repeat of "The Un-Men Unleashed". --Meadyforzbs (talk) 20:52, 11 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Where are you drawing that information from (which sources)? I'm going off of the link that says "The Un-Men Unleashed" first debuted on October 31, 1990, along with the link that says the entire series was aired in sequence starting with "The Un-Men Unleashed" on April 20, 1991, followed by "To Live Forever" on April 27, 1991, and so on, etc. AzureCitizen (talk) 21:29, 11 November 2011 (UTC)


 * The dates listed in the US Copyright Office. --Meadyforzbs (talk) 21:42, 11 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Link/URL cite? AzureCitizen (talk) 21:44, 11 November 2011 (UTC)


 * http://cocatalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?DB=local&PAGE=First --Meadyforzbs (talk) 21:47, 11 November 2011 (UTC)


 * When I click on the link, I get this response: "The Online Public Access Catalog is not available. Please contact the library (Error Connecting to Opac Server)."  AzureCitizen (talk) 21:54, 11 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes, the site is down at the moment. It should be back up later. --Meadyforzbs (talk) 22:13, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I was able to get into the site and pull up the records for all five episodes: The UnMen Unleashed, To Live Forever, Falling Red Star, Legend of the Lost Cavern, and Experiment in Terror. If we use the official date of publication filed with the U.S. Copyright office, we get this result:

Does everyone concur that this is the best solution? AzureCitizen (talk) 00:43, 12 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Agreed. --Meadyforzbs (talk) 02:52, 12 November 2011 (UTC)


 * The solution has been implemented. AzureCitizen (talk) 00:04, 13 November 2011 (UTC)