Talk:Swan Lake (Bourne)

Mid vs. low importance
Matthew Bourne himself is well worth mid importance, but not his individual ballets.

Use of music by S.H.E.
An editor added the sentence 'The music has been dubbed by Taiwanese girl band S.H.E. with Mandarin lyrics, entitling the song "Remember".' I've reverted the change because it's not clear what "music" is referred to – if the song simply made use of music from Swan Lake by Tchaikovsky, what is the connection with Matthew Bourne's Swan Lake? Also, no reference was provided. It may be appropriate to reinsert the sentence if more information is provided. &mdash; Cheers, Jack Lee  –talk– 19:43, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Adding references
Hi, Epanalepsis, I notice you've recently beefed up "Matthew Bourne's Swan Lake" with some information from the DVD synopsis. May I suggest that you refer to the DVD in footnotes in the article? What you need to provide are the full title of the DVD, its place of publication, publisher and date of publication. If you know how to, you may want to use the Citation template to organize the information. If you need help with this, post a request here with that information. &mdash; Cheers, Jack Lee  –talk– 01:22, 13 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your suggestion, JackLee. I added to the synopsis from the DVD because the info that the Secretary is von Rothbart, who is scheming to marry his son to the Queen, clarifies the Prince's torment. I considered using footnotes to cite the DVD and decided not to because:
 * to cite each piece of info that comes from the DVD would clutter the text (though perhaps one initial footnote would suffice); and
 * I cannot find a citation template specifically for DVDs. The video one doesn't really suit. So for now I added the info in the reference section. Is there a template for DVDs? Epanalepsis (talk) 02:07, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

I don't think there's a special cite template for DVDs at the moment. I would deploy the main citation template, using the "title", "location" (i.e., place of publication), "publisher", and "date" or "year" parameters). It should be all right to insert a single reference after the sentence "This synopsis is derived from program notes and the synopsis provided on the DVD" instead of referring to the citation throughout the "Synopsis" section. I think you should also refer to the same citation after the information that you added about the interview with Matthew Bourne in the "Politics" section. You can make two footnote numbers refer to the same footnote by using Here's another sentence that cites to the same reference. Note the oblique ("/") after the reference name. }}

However, if I'm referring to individual pages within a source, I do this:

&mdash; Cheers, Jack Lee  –talk– 03:49, 15 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your help, Jacklee. I made the changes eliminating the idem, etc. in a separate edit so that you can easily revert them if you like.
 * – Cheers Epanalepsis (talk) 16:17, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

That looks fine! &mdash; Cheers, Jack Lee  –talk– 19:03, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

This isn't meant to be a review
This is a difficult article, and to me reads too much like a review with all kinds of attempts to perform original research interpretation. In point of fact, Bourne's Swan Lake is to me entirely obviously a portrayal of a man coming to terms with his sexuality and going through that experience and - perhaps suitably for the composer's period - pays the price as he does. But this is literary criticism, not an encyclopedia entry. This article should say what happens in front of your eyes and perhaps give a few review comments from secondary sources. All the other judgments are inappropriate, not only for what they say, but for what they don't say. Bluehotel (talk) 16:39, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

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