Talk:Sweet Blue Flowers

Plot
Since the list manga chapters has pretty detailed summaries, I don't think this article needs the "Plot" section to be as detailed as this one is. I think the previous one was more appropriate for the this article. Kazu-kun (talk) 22:35, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Plot sections in main articles are supposed to be comprehensive. In fact, there's a current discussion at WT:ANIME about the need for people who have read entire series and can write comprehensive plot summaries and character descriptions. For another example, see Tokyo Mew Mew's comprehensive plot. Also see WP:MOS-AM.--  十  八  22:52, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Reception
I can't see how Friedman's opinion is relevant here. If she, who's a nobody, has a note in a Wiki entry, why can't everyone else add their own opinion? I could write a review on my blog and post it here, do you think it would be right? The majority of the yuri fandom doesn't recognize her as a reliable source, and find completely useless (if not harmful) to add the opinion of a nobody in a serious encyclopedic entry. CosmoAlbatross (talk) 16:14, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * You're obviously being biased. Friedman is the president of Yuricon and ALC Publishing, a yuri publishing house, and she has been considered reliable based on these qualifications. Not to mention that she's listed at WP:ANIME/RS and there was already a discussion related to her notability.--  十  八  19:07, 4 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I agree with Juhachi here, for reasons already stated by him. And since we're talking about the Reception, here's a review by ANN (scroll down till "Import of the Month - AOI HANA (Sweet Blue Flowers)"). I don't have the time to write the content into the article, so if anyone else wants to do it, be my guest. Kazu-kun (talk) 01:47, 5 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Amazing find Kazu! I'll incorporate it later on tonight if I can.--  十  八  04:13, 5 August 2009 (UTC)


 * "Friedman is the president of Yuricon and ALC Publishing," exactly, she is a nobody. I wouldn't be surprised if one or both of you are actually Friedman itself.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.251.209.143 (talk) 21:13, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Continued removal of the reception will result in a block. You have been warned.--  十  八  21:39, 22 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Given the continued removal of Erica Friedman's review by the anonymous editor(s) (despite her meeting the criteria of reliable source), perhaps we should request protected page status for this article? Maybe a block on edits by unregistered users?  David Bailey (talk) 09:06, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
 * While annoying, it's not happening everyday, and to not such a major extent to go to protection IMO, but you're willing to ask at WP:RFP if you want.--  十  八  21:32, 16 September 2009 (UTC)


 * I know this is old news, but I just need to express my astonishment that someone would call Erica a "nobody" whose opinion here is "irrelevant." It's eight years later, and I feel pretty confident in saying there would be no official print edition of this work in English if not for Erica's influence in this genre. Hell, even the earlier digital editions may never have happened if not for Erica.Matt Thorn (talk) 05:43, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

Reviews
--  十  八  08:19, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
 * http://www.manga-news.com/index.php/manga/Fleurs-Bleues/vol-1#review
 * http://www.manga-news.com/index.php/manga/Fleurs-Bleues/vol-2#review
 * http://www.manga-news.com/index.php/manga/Fleurs-Bleues/vol-3#review
 * http://www.manga-news.com/index.php/manga/Fleurs-Bleues/vol-4#review
 * http://www.bdgest.com/chronique-4109-BD-Fleurs-bleues-volume-4.html

Suggested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the proposal was moved. --BDD (talk) 17:51, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Aoi Hana → Sweet Blue Flowers – Both the manga and anime are now released under this name. Per conventions at WP:MOS-AM, the article title should reflect the accepted English title.  十  八  23:03, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Survey

 * Support If both manga and anime are translated under that name I don't see why we shouldn't rename the article. Kazu-kun (talk) 02:19, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Support WP:UE use the English title -- 65.92.180.137 (talk) 05:55, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Support. The proposed form is the official JManga translation, per Anime News Network. ANN's main page on this subject is here. Kauffner (talk) 01:27, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

Discussion

 * Any additional comments:
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Character section formatting and references question
I have no issues if everyone prefers to keep the character list on this page instead of splitting it out, but is there a reason for the formatting to have been shifted as it has been, with "Other Characters" as a section and the families beneath that? Many of the family members are as major (or more major) than some of the younger students, particularly in the cases of Akira, Fumi, Yasuko, and to some extent Kyouko. The formatting simply seems odd and harder to read to me, with the lists as they are, and unintentionally deemphasize the roles that family members play in the storyline. If anyone has suggestions or solutions for that, I'd love to hear them. Juhachi, for references, do you want chapters cited? Because I thought that would be somewhat OR, but I wasn't sure. There's a relative lack of detailed secondary information in English on this manga, as I'm sure you're aware is common for yuri manga. If you have non-blog secondary sources, I would be happy to look at them and add citations. That includes Japanese sources, though I would be slower at those and may have questions about appropriate interpretation/translation. -The Old Briar Pipe (talk) 11:03, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
 * The main reason for the reformatting of the "other characters" is because there is relatively little to say about them. I was following a suggested format in such cases as can be seen at WP:MOS-AM: "If the majority of characters' descriptions consist of one or two sentences, a bullet list is most appropriate". I realize that (at least in its current state) that many of the students' descriptions aren't very long either, but seeing as the story revolves around them and not their family members, I thought it best to keep those formatted in the original way. As for references, citing the primary source for character lists has been done extensively in such articles as List of Naruto characters and Heaven's Lost Property, so you can use them as a guide.--  十  八  11:24, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

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