Talk:Swimming (sport)/Archives/2015

Quran
Based on Wikipedia editing rules, is it normal that the article refers to "The Holy Quran" and not to "the Quran"? 90.6.114.131 (talk) 16:19, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

Article needs a clean-up
The article is very messy, and needs an experienced editor who is also knowledgeable about competitive swimming (i.e. not me) to clean it up. To my mind the piece about the physics of swimming should be expanded, later in the article, or separate; few who read this will want to delve into drag equations. We need to sort out what goes into this specific sport swimming article (i.e. where the aim is to achieve better times over distances) and what could be moved to the general 'human locomotion in water' article. It also needs better links to other articles on related topics.

There is also a lot of sloppy editing - a specific example: "Laughlin gives three physical principles to reduce drag in swimming: ...", and the article proceeds to describe only two.

I've also removed two 'chat' topics from this page, because they contribute nothing towards the development of Wikipedia. --Wally Tharg (talk) 10:00, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

The Michael Phelps Diet
As strange as it is, the section on what Michael Phelps eats has shocking news It doesn't really strike him as being about the  swimming the most common food to see him eating is macdonalds. So The Michael Phelps Diet Top Tip is eat lots and lots of junk Food. P.S. lots of fatty foods give you energy


 * Does this unsigned comment contribute to the development of encyclopaedic content? Probably not.  But if you think you could write a useful section on diets for competitive swimming, go ahead.  --Wally Tharg (talk) 10:00, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

VANDALISM WARNING
The article seems to have suffered from vandalism (just now) by anonymous user Special:Contributions/132.239.90.173, plus several possibly bona-fide but highly dubious edits over the past month or two. Someone with more knowledge than myself should compare a good version from 1-2 months ago with the current one, and check the changes. All the best, --Jorge Stolfi (talk) 04:31, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Insider language
The article uses too much jargon and seems to assume that the reader is familiar with the topic. For example, what is "8&U"? Are the distances measured in meters, yards, feet, millimeters, parsecs? I did some cleanup but more is needed, and I am no expert. All the best, --Jorge Stolfi (talk) 20:12, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Recent developments in swimming strokes
I moved the section "Recent developments in swimming strokes" to the article swimming strokes. All the best, --Jorge Stolfi (talk) 01:11, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Yards or Metres?
The section "Competition pools" describes short course pools as "25 yards or 25 metres". A yard is about 10% shorter than a meter, which is quite a bit for sport competition. Does this mean that short course pools can be EITHER 25 yards OR 25 metres? Or should it say "25 yards, which is about 25 metres"? In the latter case, the exact metric equivalent should be given instead.

Short course pools can be either 25 metres or 25 yards. Most short course pools in the USA are 25 yards, while in the rest of the world they tend to be 25 metres. From my experience, I believe that most short course pools, at least the North Eastern US are 25 meters, not 25 feet. I've swam competitively for over ten years through out New England and every pool that I have swam in has been measure in Meters, not feet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kcollins11 (talk • contribs) 15:50, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
 * 25 feet would be a pretty short pool!  I believe that user wrote yards, not feet.  Neil916 (Talk) 06:10, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

I swim for an English club were I train at 2 different pool one is at a leisure centre and is 25m however the other is only 25yrd but that is because it is over 100 years old. I know that most pools in England are measured in metres but I don't know about America. 18 June 2013 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.159.239.115 (talk) 15:54, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

electronic timing
Not sure what is meant by "electronic timing" in Swimming (sport), but this indicates the first "semi-automatic timer" was used inide8eufit the 1960 Olympics, automatic systems were in their infancy, and one was only used as a backup to the judges. The 1912 Olympics article referenced in this one mentions electronic timing for track & field, but not swimming. I could be missing something, though. --Fru1tbat (talk) 20:47, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

dolphin kick
The second paragraph of this portion is a strange coupling of information. It denotes where the dolphin kick is usually used and then goes into sharkskin suits and then a world record. It just seems rather random and parts of it, like the records and usage of the kick could be better used in the first paragraph. Mellucas (talk) 21:31, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

swimwear
The section on swimwear actually turns into swim and or training equipment in the middle. Maybe a new header is needed or a combination header swimwear/training equipment might better serve this section. Just a thought. Mellucas (talk) 21:31, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

seasons
The seasons section needs more clarification and citations of where this information came from. Mellucas (talk) 21:31, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Edit "Use of Drag"
I am a new user and I swam competitively for several years. I suggest editing the section entitled “Use of Drag.” The information here is poorly composed and contains repetitive information. The data about swimmers shaving their bodies has already been stated above in “Competition.” This repeating of information detracts from Wikipedia’s credibility as an encyclopedia. The data should be overhauled, sources should be cited, and the text rewritten for clarity and accuracy. Walli Ward (talk) 21:51, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Add Sections
It would be helpful for the purposes of clarity and a fully rounded discussion of the topic to add sections on such things as: Training, The “Greats” (of the swimming world), and the Physics of the Sport. These items all relate appropriately to the main topic and comply with Wikipedia’s policy which states that all information on the site must be verifiable and not originate from personal, original research. Walli Ward (talk) 21:51, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Edit "List of Equipment" (Currently titled "Swimwear")
For the purpose of clarity, I suggest that the subheading “Paddle” be changed to “Hand Paddle.” “Paddle” is the common term and it resembles insider language. Also, many swimmers stow their fins, cap, and goggles in a mesh bag for easy transportation to and from the car and locker room. Adding “mesh bag” to the list would round out the content nicely. Walli Ward (talk) 21:51, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Yards and metres
This article appears confusing with yards and metres. Shoudn't it follow the FINA rules and all be metres. Competition in pools measured in yars is very rare now. It needs to bee mentioned that some pools use yards but I think we should just use metres for everything else. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Matthewm192 (talk • contribs) 11:13, 10 August 2014 (UTC)