Talk:Swingin' (Dino album)

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: moved to Swingin' (Dino album). An article for the Arturo Sandoval album now exists. Armbrust The Homunculus 05:04, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

Swingin → Swingin' (album) – The new title is the correct spelling of the album (whose article as of now exists as a redirect to the musician).  Erpert  WHAT DO YOU WANT??? 05:21, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Support but better Swingin' (Dino album), an album by this singer is no more notable than an album by Arturo Sandoval. In ictu oculi (talk) 07:13, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Fair, but Mr. Sandoval's album doesn't have an article.  Erpert  WHAT DO YOU WANT??? 08:21, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
 * That's only a reflection of Wikipedia's volunteer demographics not the reality of the real world; the Jazz album gets many more hits in Google Books than the pop album. In ictu oculi (talk) 14:29, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Are all those hits reliable though? Anyway, I personally am not familiar with Mr. Sandoval, but if you want to create an article for that album, go for it.  Erpert  WHAT DO YOU WANT??? 18:54, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, though some are a later similarly titled album. Done: Swingin' (Arturo Sandoval album) In ictu oculi (talk) 02:18, 20 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Support as proposed. Let's not let articles that don't (and may never) exist affect titling. --BDD (talk) 19:38, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
 * User:BDD, what you're saying is tantamount to saying let's not let Google Books and the real world affect titling. It's also contrary to WP:AT and WP:DAB which refer to the real world outside our article stock. Note also WP:REDLINK "Good red links help Wikipedia—they encourage new contributors in useful directions, and remind us that Wikipedia is far from finished." In ictu oculi (talk) 01:58, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. Titles should help readers find articles. There's no point in rearranging titles to help readers find nonexistent articles. We disagree on WP:D's "covered by Wikipedia," but surely we can agree that it doesn't apply to topics outside of Wikipedia. This is not to say that Wikipedia is complete; it's simply a statement of pragmatism. --BDD (talk) 17:36, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Don't agree at all. I'm constantly annoyed by looking for notable topics in Wikipedia and landing on a page about an ephemeral pop song or wrestler. The project has a massive systemic bias to crap and trivia. Keeping titling connected to the real universe of books is more likely to result in a better encyclopedia long term. In ictu oculi (talk) 13:31, 22 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Rename to ' Swingin' (Dino album), and "Swingin" should redirect to Swingin' -- 65.94.78.9 (talk) 05:41, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.