Talk:Sydney Ferries

New Captain Cook Cruises contract
It has been quite a while since the contract with Fantasea Cruises ended. Sydney ferries services are now supplemented by 2 or 3 vessels from Captain Cook Cruises. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.233.124.118 (talk) 02:05, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

Sydney Ferries 'privatised'
This article needs a complete rewrite indicating that Sydney Ferries no longer exists as all ferry services were contracted to Harbour City Ferries (which needs its own Page created too) in Aug 2012 (I think). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.44.165.122 (talk) 22:18, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Re-write of corporate details
I've just re-written some of the details of the current corporate structure of Sydney Ferries. The old version named the specific ministers who are shareholders and was already out-of-date. I've changed it to name the positions instead - i.e. "The two shareholders are the NSW treasurer and finance minister." This way the page will stay valid when the office-holders change.

I also deleted the naming of Geoffrey Smith as CEO as he has been dismissed from the role recently. Stuart midgley (talk) 02:29, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Merge Accident Pages
The accident pages should be merged in here. They should be discussed in view of the recent accident history of Sydney Ferries, not on their own separate pages that will never be expanded. JRG 23:53, 28 March 2007 (UTC) I disagree, what occurred is an absolute calamity, the likes of which would not occur very often and is very significant and will in the future be expanded a lot. I vote that they be reinstated. They were removed with suspiciously undue haste.Ajayvius 05:17, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Agree. --Peta 02:34, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Three - perhaps four people drowned. It is not a big event by any stretch of the imagination. Wikepedia is an encyclopedia not a news source. --Peta 05:37, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Oppose merge - first of all, Sydney Harbour Bridge Ferry Disaster was merged the first time way too fast. Second of all, this may not seem important to you, but it could have massive repercussions for Austrlian figure skating. Awartha 05:38, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia articles aren't supposed to be created for supposed future events. All sorts of new items have article written about them and they are left to languish - at least within the ferries article there is some context and it contributes to information about accidents the company has been involved in. --Peta 05:44, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Also the name of the disaster article is a farce; no one other than Wikipedia is calling the accident by that name. --Peta 05:54, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
 * It's not a supposed future event. It's already devastated the Australian figure skating community. This could possibly be as bad as the Sabena crash. This is big for figure skating. Keep it as a seperate article. Awartha 05:55, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
 * So rename the article. That's not a reason to move it. Awartha 05:56, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
 * You are proclaiming that the death of three people involved in figure skating in Australia "could have massive repercussions for Austrlian figure skating"; if Australia fails to enter a figure skating team at the next world champs. because of this accident, you may have a case for writing the article in the future. As is, it's a minor accident of little interest beyond the news. Look at the Burnley tunnel article, it makes excellent use of recent news information without spinning it off into a pointless article. --Peta 05:59, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree that the article should be merged with Sydney Ferries. I'm sorry, Awartha, it's a very, very sad and tragic accident, and will no doubt have an impact, at least emotionally, on the ice-skating community (in which I gather you are involved or interested). As Peta says, the Burnley Tunnel accident is a similar precedent, which has no doubt devastated the Australian cycling community, and yet does not have its own article, nor one defined as a cycling article. It could not possibly be as bad as the Sabena Flight 548 crash, which killed 73 people including the entire U.S. figure skating team, and to call it a disaster is overstating it a bit. --Canley 08:48, 29 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Alright, I'm merging it. JRG 10:56, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

It may be worth merging this article about a figure skater who it seems likely now will never have the chance to become notable except for the manner of her death - Morgan Innes. --Mattinbgn/talk 03:37, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Confusing introduction statistics
The introduction says that Sydney Ferries is used "primarily" by tourists but then later gives statistics that show more commuter travel than tourists. Which is correct? Is this somehow a bone of contention? Jpp42 10:10, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Statistics
Speed and capacity listed for some ferries conflicts with what this page says: http://www.sydneyferries.info/about-us/7-15-Fleet-Facts/first-fleet.htm --Canberranone (talk) 05:26, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Route map?
This article really needs a route map, at least for the benefit of those who are not intimately familiar with the Sydney area. --Piledhigheranddeeper (talk) 16:03, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Sydney Ferries (the service network brand) vs Sydney Ferries (the government agency)
There are two Sydney Ferries in existence currently (January 2018). One is the Sydney Ferries branding, which has the green Hop logo and green font. The other is a government agency, as stated in the current Transport Administration Act 1988 and Transport for NSW annual reports (like the 2016-17 one). The agency is the owner of the ferry fleet and is a controlled entity of Transport for NSW.

Question is, should these two "Sydney Ferries" be split into two separate wiki articles (i.e. the agency one has the name like Sydney Ferries (agency)), or leave both of them in this article? Marcnut1996 (talk) 05:37, 19 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Oppose The agency is not notable enough for its own article, it doesn't trade, merely is the custodian of ferrys that are leased to Harbour City Ferries. A precedent is where there aren't separate article for NSW Trains (agency) and NSW TrainLink (brand). Turingway (talk) 06:45, 19 January 2018 (UTC)