Talk:Sympathy for the Devil

maracas player : Venezuelan called: Jaime Martinez

the subsection entitled "Musical equipment for the solo"
i've removed this subsection because the source it refers to (the Godard film) doesn't actually show the playing/recording of the solo. and although i agree with the bit about the tone of the guitar, unless a reliable source is cited for it, it's original research, which Wikipedia policies don't allow. here's what i removed, in case someone wants to rephrase it and source it properly:
 * Film clips from the recording of the song (as well as the tone of the guitar on the released track) reveal that Richards used his 1957 three pick-up Gibson Les Paul Custom. In the clips various amps are seen, with a Vox AC-30 and a solid state Vox Supreme as the main guitar amps. From photos of the "Beggars Banquet" sessions, various Hiwatt amps are seen as well.

thanks Sssoul (talk) 22:59, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

In Guitar Player magazine, Richards says the solo is the acoustic guitar distorted through a small tape recorder. I'll try to find this info on line. DavidRavenMoon (talk) 01:14, 12 June 2017 (UTC)


 * It's definitely not an acoustic. He used distorted acoustic guitars on "Jumpin' Jack Flash" and "Street Fighting Man" but not this one. Les Paul lines up with how it sounds to me. Something else I noticed once while playing around with mono/stereo on my radio is the odd way the piano is mixed - one channel inverted (out of phase), so when you play it in mono the piano almost disappears, and in stereo it sounds as if it's somewhere out in the room, almost disorienting. For that reason, the this is the only song from Beggars Banquet to receive a dedicated mono mix whereas the rest is just folded down. Comments here, here (including a comment from Bill Levenson, who's seen the master tape), here and here. I think having this information in the article wouldn't be bad, but of course we should find a good source... 22:01, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

Influences and origins
The Primal Scream/Andrew Weatherall song Loaded uses the same samba rhythm and chord sequence. The question is where did it come from, before Jagger picked it up? [added by User:JCJC777 12 November 2017‎, moved from article space.] —Ojorojo (talk) 23:08, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

Source needed?
Related claim: "Jagger sings in first person narrative as the Devil, boasting his role in each of several historical violent atrocities."

However, you could reasonably argue that it is "God" that is speaking. I'm not sure what the intention was, but that sounds better because what would the intentions be of just singing about the "Devil"?

Just look at this:

2:
 * The song taunts us over and over with "What's my name?" even after the narrator tell us to just call him Lucifer. His name is God. Not Lucifer, not Satan, but God. I used to think this verse was just bad grammar:


 * As heads is tales Just call me Lucifer


 * But the anwer (sic) is right there--cop is to criminal as God is to Lucifer.

3:
 * It's not Lucifer speaking in this song, it's God.


 * Just as every cop is a criminal And all the sinners saints As heads is tails


 * This song is saying that God is the real devil. It's a maltheistic song.


 * So if you meet me Have some courtesy Have some sympathy, and some taste Use all your well-learned politesse Or I'll lay your soul to waste, um yeah


 * It's telling you to worship this evil totalitarian or you will suffer. The title "Sympathy for the Devil" is because people generally worship God and sympathize with him despite monstrous deeds. "Devil" is not a literal term.

95.49.24.188 (talk) 07:51, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

"2601:140:4200:4276:150c:f5cd:1d7e:30f1" has removed my "Citation needed" tag without any comment or explanation. I think this clearly shows why I believe a citation may be needed. If no one responds, I'm just going to add it again. 95.49.17.183 (talk) 20:04, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

No
Lucifer was the devil's name before he fell, when he was an angel. Satin is using opposites and using his name before he rejected God.


 * The song says "call me Lucifer" but it doesn't say the person is actually Lucifer. I think there is a very compelling argument that God is telling you to blame Satan for these acts when in fact it is his fault. What you say is relevant to Christian theology but doesn't change this fact. 95.49.42.169 (talk) 14:25, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

I changed the Guns N' Roses version being recorded to April 1994 because when Axl Rose sent his Fax to MTV in October 1996 announcing Slash's departure from the band, he stated Slash hadn't been involved with the band musically since April 1994. Slash is on the Guns N' Roses version of the song, and thus April 1994 is when it was recorded. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:2000:1281:88EA:101:B4E3:B4A3:9A40 (talk) 03:38, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

Faust
"Works based on Faust" appears as a template and category but isn't referenced or even mentioned anywhere in the article. What's the source on this? Ribbet32 (talk) 14:51, 12 February 2021 (UTC)


 * This connection seems poorly researched; to include it is SYNTH. I propose that it be removed. T 84.208.65.62 (talk) 22:36, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

"Please allow me to introduce myself: I'm a man of wealth and taste" listed at Redirects for discussion
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