Talk:Symphony No. 3 (Schumann)

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Ummm... has anyone read this article? Whoever wrote it was definitely not a Schumann scholar to say the very least. Why are the tempi for each movement listed in French? And what does this nugget of mis-informantion mean: "Schumann composed it in 1850 while he was going through a depression. This may be why the second movement is in C major." Huh? I always thought the Rhenish was one of his most buoyantly optimistic works. Oh god, my head hurts... Anyway, I'm going to redo this article from top to bottom. Enjoy! El Chileno Chido 04:38, 12 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Hrm. The material at this site is interesting; and biographical information surrounding contemporary works- the cello concerto and the first violin sonata- may also inform interpretation of the symphony... for while the original author as you describe the person, I agree, is wrong- "buoyantly optimistic"- ok, my opinion- does nothing to describe that fourth movement (which I think influenced Brahms, eg the Adagio mesto of the horn trio?), or parts of the others. Schissel | Sound the Note! 17:50, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Somehow I'm not happy with the section on Models. It's tendentious and a bit shy of authorities. The idea that because movements in Beethoven's Pastoral Symphony are played continuously, without interval, it must be a model for Schumann's Third seems forced - what about Beethoven's Fifth? Not to mention Schumann's own D minor Symphony, which might just have a Beethovenian impulse behind it - a long way behind it, though. Perhaps one way to see the Rhenish is in terms of its inluence on Schumann"s successors and friends, notably Brahms. Rewrite recommended.Delahays (talk) 14:29, 26 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Made some grammar and style corrections but I agree with Delahays above, the "models" section needs a re-write.Smeat75 (talk) 03:32, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

Genesis section
The "Genesis" section says: "He was inspired to write the symphony after a trip to the Rhineland with his wife Clara. This journey was a happy and peaceful trip, which felt to them as if they were on a pilgrimage.[5] He incorporated elements of the journey and portrayed other experiences from his life in the music." This is not what the German page says. According to the German page, he *moved* to the Rhineland in September of that year, and composed the symphony in the Rhineland (in Düsseldorf where he lived). Perhaps there is confusion about where Düsseldorf is? Just a bit down the Rhine from Cologne. A minor point, of course. FromTheVillage (talk) 19:51, 29 April 2017 (UTC)